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    • #38140
      Yohanan
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      Well, episode 6 is now online! ;)

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    • #38143
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Gotta keep tending that garden Johanan!

      Them pesky weeds!

      TR

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      • #38144
        Geri7
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        :mdrmdr:  As long he finishes up caring for his garden (this thread) in 2020 … that is our wish.  We want to go home!   :flyup: :flyup: :flyup: :flyup: :flyup: :flyup: :flyup:

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    • #38148
      Tammie
      Participant

      Agreed, the plants are looking a bit wilted regarding the heat of the times :mdrmdr: Praying for a soon harvest :prayer-hands:

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    • #38160
      Geri7
      Participant

      Rabbi Yehudah Glick is running for President of Israel in 2021.

      If he wins he will replace Reuven Rivlin and Glick is VERY vocal about having thee 3rd Temple built ASAP.  Also what is interesting is the Presidents of Israel are elected by the Knesset for a single …. seven-year term.  Hmmm. B-)

      Here’s a 17 minute youtube from Paul Begley. From marker point 2:13 – 3:54 minute he’s advertising some youth pill so don’t let that discourage you from viewing the rest of the youtube … it starts to get VERY informative from 3:55 marker on to the end.

      Rabbi Glick survived an assassination attempt after being shot 4 times and if that isn’t enough … he was later thrown down 2 flights of stairs and beaten by an angry Palestinian mob.  He is certainly a survivor and the Lord has His hand on him to keep him alive perhaps for this big moment in time as future President of Israel in 2021 and the next 7 years …

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    • #38163
      Blue
      Participant

      Cabinet passes UAE peace deal. Knesset to vote on Thursday:

      https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/netanyahu-uae-leader-speak-ahead-of-cabinet-vote-on-peace-treaty-645406

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    • #38171
      Geri7
      Participant

      From Gary @ Unsealed  … See ya soon siblings! :popcorn :popcorn

      BREAKING NEWS OUT OF JERUSALEM: The Israeli Cabinet has just voted unanimously to adopt the Abraham Accords, which now leaves only a Knesset vote this Thursday.  The agreement not only stipulates the need for a negotiated settlement between Israel and the Palestinians (a.k.a. dividing the land), but it also promotes a blasphemous, interfaith view of God as the Father of false religions.

      The “Treaty of Peace, Diplomatic Relations and Full Normalization Between the United Arab Emirates and The State of Israel” commits its signatories to “continuing their efforts to achieve a just, comprehensive, realistic and enduring solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict” and to continue “working together to realize a negotiated solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that meets the legitimate needs and aspirations of both peoples, and to advance comprehensive Middle East peace, stability and prosperity.”

      The UAE-Israel treaty states that the signatories are “recognizing that the Arab and Jewish peoples are descendants of a common ancestor, Abraham, and inspired, in that spirit, to foster in the Middle East a reality in which Muslims, Jews, Christians and peoples of all faiths, denominations, beliefs and nationalities live in, and are committed to, a spirit of coexistence, mutual understanding and mutual respect.” (Source)

      It is also now being reported that a number of key Arab and European countries are pressuring the Palestinian Authority to enter into direct negotiations with Israel—a sea change in the international position given that their historic posture has been built around international and not direct negotiations.  Direct negotiations imply movement toward adopting the Vision for Peace (“Deal of the Century”) in full.  Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Egypt, and Jordan are among the Middle Eastern countries pushing direct talks, but the three main European powers have also jumped on board (France, Germany, and Britain).  There is now a growing sense of inevitability that the Trump-Kushner deal is indeed going to be the framework that establishes a Palestinian state and enables Israel to annex approximately 30% of Judea and Samaria (the West Bank).

      There are also growing rumors Saudi Arabia may soon publicly announce acquiescence to the Abraham Accords, perhaps even before U.S. elections next month.  Saudi Arabia is the religious center of both branches of Islam, housing both Mecca and Medina.  It is also the wealthiest Gulf state and the third wealthiest Muslim nation overall.  If it were to formally make peace with Israel, the current chants of “peace and security” would be magnified a hundredfold.

      Despite what some are saying, this deal is not in Israel’s interest.  It is entrapping the country in such a way that the Israelis will be unable (and unwilling) to recapture their God-given land or the full city of Jerusalem unless God Himself intervenes (and He will).  Before the Abraham Accords Israel had nothing to lose.  They were marching toward annexation of even more of their primordial homeland despite Palestinian objections, but now with the accord about to be confirmed, “peace” is actually the vehicle through which the division of the land will happen.  Israel dare not take any more land lest her newfound friends annul the accord.  And the more countries that join, the harder it will be for Israel to back out.

      It’s like a tiger cub.  It looks cute and everyone wants one.  But eventually the cub grows into a tiger and devours you.  The Vision for Peace and subsequent Abraham Accords appeared superficially advantageous to Israel from the world’s perspective.  Objections to the deal by Israel’s historic enemies made the Israelis that much more comfortable with it.  What deal could possibly be better than this one?—so they thought.  But this deal is spiraling and snowballing into a deal they can no longer refuse—a deal that will be impossible to back out of with the full weight of the world behind it.

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    • #38179
      Geri7
      Participant

      One watcher had a comment in the unsealed article above saying the timeline Gary has will fit perfectly with his timeline of …. he has the mid-point of the trib occurring around Easter 2024 … the AC would want to defile the Temple then.  And the trib saints, that are martyred, are seen in heaven with palms in the hands (Revelation 7:9) so perhaps that puts the mark of the beast system in place a week before Easter?  But perhaps the 2 witnesses job ends the following week … and their bodies are laid in the streets for 3 days … perhaps they get resurrected on Easter Sunday? :unsure:

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    • #38258
      Geri7
      Participant

      And we got the OWR mystery Babylon conference going on … 

      G20 Interfaith forum meets this week to advance the one world religion of Chrislam as laid out in the pope’s Declaration of Human Fraternity

      The Oct. 13-17 G20 interfaith forum was organized online due to the COVID0-19 pandemic. The line-up of the seventh edition of the forum included Cardinal Miguel Ángel Ayuso Guixot, President of the Vatican’s Council for Interreligious Dialogue; Patriarch Bartholomew of Constantinople; representatives from the United Nations, the International Dialogue Centre (KAICIID), the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, the World Muslim League, and the European Commission.

      We call it Chrislam, the lost world refers to it by various other names like the Abrahamic Faiths Initiative, the Declaration of Human Fraternity, the Abraham Accords, but no matter what you call it, you wind up in the same place. 2019 was the year that Chrislam was ratified, codified, fostered and financed, and 2020 is the year that it was adopted by the lost leaders of this world. This is the One World Religion of Chrislam warned about in Revelation, it has begun, it is here.

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      • #38265
        Tammie
        Participant

        Geri, would not surprise me if they are all wearing red hooded robes and full black face masks at this G20 event :mdrmdr: Amazing that we are watching the bulk of the world losing their ever liven mind! Not surprising to see how they will welcome the man of sin….

        Please, Abba, can we come home? :prayer-hands:

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    • #38259
      Geri7
      Participant

      And yesterday this happened … China, Russia and Cuba were welcomed into the UN Human Rights Council … and Saudi Arabia was left off the list.  Could it be because they are siding with Israel???

      Talk about in the last days warnings … evil will be promoted as good and good will be called evil and shunned.

      China, Russia and Cuba won seats on the UN Human Rights Council on Tuesday despite opposition from activist groups over their abysmal human rights records, but another target, Saudi Arabia, lost.

      When I think of oppressive, bloody dictatorial regimes that stomp the faces of their citizens into the ground under the heel of steel-toe boots, I think of nations like Russia, China and Cuba. The fact that any of these three brutal countries could become part of the UN Human Rights Council is stupefying, but all three becoming members on the same day? Demonic. But that’s all “par for the course” at the godless United Nations. Did you know that God mentions the United Nations in the bible prophecy? It sure is.

      “Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the LORD, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy.” Zephaniah 3:8

      “For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.” Zechariah 14:2

      Many places in the bible point to a day where all the nations of the world will unite together to fulfill bible prophecy. The prophets tell us that when all the nations of the world finally come together, as they did when the United Nations was formed on October 24, 1945, they will be ultimately led by Antichrist to come against the nation of Israel. Now do you see why Russia, China and Cuba – three of the most repressive and violent regimes in human history – are now on the UN Human Rights Council? Tick, tock…and the needle moves forward yet again.

      China, Russia and Cuba win seats on UN rights council, Saudis lose
      FROM WSOC TV: Russia and Cuba were running unopposed, but China and Saudi Arabia were in a five-way race in the only contested race for seats on the Human Rights Council.

      In secret-ballot voting in the 193-member U.N. General Assembly on that race, Pakistan received 169 votes, Uzbekistan 164, Nepal 150, China 139 and Saudi Arabia just 90 votes.

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    • #38270
      Geri7
      Participant

      Behind the scenes …

       

      Report:  France Considers Alternatives to Two State Solution

      Israel 365 News

      By Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz/ Oct 14, 2020/ Terror Watch

       

      A recent report cites senior French diplomats as saying that the Trump-negotiated Abraham Accords have changed the political reality in the Middle East, opening up the possibility of a negotiated reconciliation between Israel and the Palestinians that does not necessarily require the creation of an independent Palestinian entity inside Israel.

      Report:  “France is updating its position”

      A report in Hebrew-language Maariv News cited diplomatic sources in Paris as saying, “France is updating its position on the Israeli-Palestinian issue.”

      Eric Danon, the  French Ambassador to Israel went on to say, “We can accept any solution that the Palestinians and Israelis agree on/”

      In a discussion initiated by the European Leadership Network (ELNET), a non-governmental organization whose stated mission is to strengthen relations between Europe and Israel, the French Ambassador to Israel Eric Danon said: “We will not negotiate on behalf of the Palestinians. This is a bilateral question and we say that a new situation that has arisen must be taken into account and returned to the negotiating table.”

      “No one knows what will be in the end – one state, two states, with or without Jerusalem,” Danon said. “What we prefer and think will be best is a two-state solution. Does that mean we can not agree on something else? Not at all. We can accept Any solution that the Palestinians and Israelis will agree on.”

       

      “Six months ago, no one could have imagined that Israel, the United Arab Emirates, and Bahrain would sign the Abrahamic Accords,” he added. “The Middle East has completely changed because of the position of the United States, Iran, and Turkey, because Israel has become a new regional power and because of the fatigue of the Palestinian question.”

      Danon has said similar things in the past, but they were defined by the French government as a “private opinion” Maariv cited a diplomatic observer in Paris as saying that “there is a move in the French position towards the US position”.

      French diplomatic sources added: “French diplomacy is having a hard time throwing all its weight behind a two-state solution, as it is becoming unrealistic on the ground. What the ambassador said is self-evident. It is important to resume negotiations as soon as possible. The Palestinians have never been so weak. They could lose everything.”

      Officially, nothing has changed 

      Officially, the French Foreign Ministry adhered to its former position: “A sustainable solution to the conflict requires the establishment of two states based on the 1967 lines with Jerusalem as a capital.”

      In 2015, the French government tried to impose a two-year deadline for a two-state solution if negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians did not result in an agreement. Prime Minister Netanyahu rejected the proposition while PA President Mahmoud Abbas refused to commit to recognizing the State of Israel as a condition for the creation of a Palestinian state.

      It is significant to note that in his speech at the UN General Assembly, President Emanuel Macron spoke of “crucial negotiations that will allow the Palestinians to finally enjoy their rights” – but he did not mention the two countries.

      Palestinians refuse to accept alternatives 

      Asharq Al Awsat, an Arabic international newspaper, reported the story, citing a senior Palestinian source as saying that the Palestinian Authority has stated it will only accept a two-state solution based on the creation of a Palestinian state inside Israel’s borders with Jerusalem as its capital.

      One alternative to a two-state solution is a one-state solution that would grant Palestinians in the West Bank, Gaza, and Jerusalem citizenship, giving them equal rights with Israelis. The Palestinian Authority has always rejected this alternative.

      Asharq Al Awsat quoted Palestinian Prime Minister Mohammad Shtayyeh as saying that pressure on the PA would stop after the US election, implying that he anticipated a victory by the Democrats who support a two-state solution.

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    • #38352
      Geri7
      Participant

      Hmmm … getting interesting here … ultimatum (((pressure))) is being given to the PLO and Hamas for peace. :popcorn   If they don’t play nice … they will soon become … “footnotes in history”. :mdrmdr: :mdrmdr:

      Jordan and Saudis tighten screws on PLO and Hamas
      Reconciling their differences is the price the PLO and Hamas have to pay for future Saudi help, but their enmity runs too deep. Op-ed.

      Arutz Sheva

      By David Singer 10/15/20

       

      Saudi Arabia and Jordan have engaged in a twin-pronged attack on the PLO and Hamas seemingly intended to get them to bury the hatchet and begin negotiations with Israel on allocating sovereignty in Gaza and Judea and Samaria (‘West Bank’) under President Trump’s 2020 Peace Plan.

      Prince Bandar bin Sultan Al-Saud – Saudi Arabia’s ambassador to the United States 1983 – 2005, secretary general of the National Security Council 2005-2019 and director general of the Saudi Intelligence Agency 2012 – 2014 – provides a fascinating insight into the many failures of the Palestinian Arab leadership he witnessed from 1978 to 2015 in an Arab News article headlined “Setting the record straight”.

      Bandar is particularly critical of the PLO and Hamas – after Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah brought PLO Chairman Mahmoud Abbas and Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal to Mecca for crisis talks in February 2007 to end the deadly PLO-Hamas violence that had followed the January 2005 presidential election won by Abbas and the January 2006 legislative election won by Hamas:

      “After (King Abdullah) checked what they had written and read it in front of everyone and asked them to vow before God and in front of everyone that they agree to this deal, he asked them to shake hands and congratulated them, saying, ‘God is our witness, and we are in his holy land. (Prince) Saud (bin Faisal), take the brothers to the Kaaba and let them pledge their word before God and before the Palestinian people.’ Only a few days after they left Saudi Arabia, we received news they had already gone back on their word and started conspiring and plotting against each other once again.”

      No elections since 2006 and no reconciliation between the PLO and Hamas continues.

      Bandar recalls the many times the Palestinian Arab leadership asked Saudi Arabia for advice and help – took the help but ignored the advice:

      “Then they would fail and turn back to us again, and we would support them again, regardless of their mistakes,” he said. This nature of the relationship, he felt, might have convinced the Palestinian Arab leadership that “there is no price to pay for any mistakes they commit towards the Saudi leadership or the Saudi state, or the Gulf leaderships and states.”

      Reconciling their differences is the price the PLO and Hamas have to pay for future Saudi help – following peace treaties signed by Israel with the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain whilst Saudi Arabia has granted Israel’s commercial airlines the right to fly in Saudi Arabian air space.

      Commercial airlines will now be able to fly faster and cheaper through the Israel-Jordan corridor from the Gulf States and Asia to destinations in Europe and North America after Israel signed a historic aviation agreement with Jordan on 8 October following many years of negotiations.

      If Israel and Jordan can negotiate an agreement for flights over the West Bank and Gaza – then Israel and Jordan can determine West Bank/Gaza’s final status pursuant to Article 3 (2) of the 1994 Jordan – Israel Peace Treaty:

      The boundary, as set out in Annex I (a), is the permanent, secure and recognized international boundary between Jordan and Israel, without prejudice to the status of any territories that came under Israeli military government control in 1967.” (Territories)

      Jordan’s message to the PLO is clear: Negotiate with Israel on the final status of Gaza and 70% of the West Bank designated in Trump’s Peace Plan – or risk being replaced by Jordan instead.

      Saudi Arabia and Jordan are tightening the screws on the PLO and Hamas threatening to reduce them to footnotes in history.

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    • #38358
      Yohanan
      Moderator

      “footnotes in history”

      What?!?! Come on now. Everyone knows the PLO has been around since the beginning of time. Everyone knows they held the land before Israel! I mean, just look at all the overwhelming evidence. They had a capital city, a currency, culture, more than enough archeological evidence as is being produced nearly daily! Then there are all those pesky history books that talk about………oh, wait! That was all ISRAEL! Okay, yes. They will be relegated to a mere footnote as the annoying flea that they are. B-)

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      • #38360
        Tammie
        Participant

        So right on the annoying flee part —- a little flee powder please! :mdrmdr: :mdrmdr:
        Flees do like sand and obviously these flees do not want to play nice in the sandbox :mdrmdr:

        wont they all be surprised when God shows up with the deed to the entire earth — yea! no you are not the heirs here little flee — :calvin :mdrmdr:

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    • #38361
      Geri7
      Participant

      :mdrmdr: :mdrmdr:

      I agree with you both. :good:

      The only “footnote” they actually do deserve is this …

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      * Palestinians – a bunch of misfit illegal dreamers occupying the Holy Land. (*  :bible )

       

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    • #38362
      tenderreed
      Participant

      All pretenders and usurpers will be displaced and delt with by God!

      Love the footnote!

      TR

       

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    • #38363
      Tammie
      Participant

      https://www.gograph.com/clipart/cross-with-treble-clef-gg100750279.html

      they do walk a treble clef :mdrmdr: :groan

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      • #38365
        Geri7
        Participant

        Looks like change is coming … :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn

        From the Temple Mount Institute …. 22 hrs ago
        Historic Precedent on Temple Mount

        A historical first occurred today as a delegation of UAE and Bahrainian Arabs were escorted by their Israeli hosts onto the Temple Mount, where they prayed in the Dome of the Rock. What made this visit historic was the fact that the delegation was escorted by Israeli officials, and not by the Muslim Waqf. Additionally, the Arab delegate arrived via the Western Wall plaza, where they entered the Temple Mount through the Moghrabi Gate, the same gate through which Jews enter the Mount. All this was much to the chagrin of the Muslim Waqf. A small number of local Arabs on the Temple Mount, Waqf personel included, attempted to attack the foreign delegation and were immediately arrested by the police.

        The Union of Temple Mount Organizations welcomed the precedent. “This is the beginning of the fulfillment of the prophecy that ‘And it shall be at the end of the days, that the mountain of HaShem’s house shall be firmly established at the top of the mountains, and it shall be raised above the hills, and all the nations shall stream to it.” (Isaiah 2:2)

        Assaf Fried, representing the Union of Temple Mount Organizations, said that the peace agreement with the United Arab Emirates, approved today by Israel’s Knesset, marks the first time Israel has made peace without giving up territory, a precedent that will bring us closer to the words of Isaiah: “And many peoples shall go, and they shall say, ‘Come, let us go up to HaShem’s mount, to the house of the G-d of Yaakov, and let Him teach us of His ways, and we will go in His paths,’ for out of Zion shall the Torah come forth, and the word of HaShem from Jerusalem. And he shall judge between the nations and reprove many peoples, and they shall beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift the sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore.'” (Isaiah 2:3-4)

        The question remains: Will Israel use this new found independence from the Muslim Waqf to finally grant Jews freedom of access and freedom of worship on the Temple Mount?

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    • #38367
      Tammie
      Participant

      More coolness regarding the Temple mound. Maybe this is actually were the two witnesses will stand :unsure:

      https://www.israel365news.com/159606/for-first-time-ever-more-jews-pray-on-temple-mount-than-western-wall-watch/

      More Jews prayed on the mount than at the wailing wall. :whistle:  It’s beginning to look a lot like …. Christ pretender is coming … everywhere we go …..

      :prayer-hands:

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    • #38368
      Tammie
      Participant

      Problem brewing —- embargo ends Sunday — maybe we go this weekend, it’s currently “peaceful“ in the Middle East — today and tomorrow :calvin

      https://www.israel365news.com/159648/embargo-ends-sunday-re-opening-intl-arms-market-to-iran/

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    • #38370
      Geri7
      Participant

      Big to do PEACE event coming up on Oct 20th in Rome … keep staying alert and watchful because false peace is in the air :whistle:

       

      Pope Francis to Attend Interreligious Chrislam Peace and Fraternity’ event in Rome

      from Now the End Begins

      FROM CATHOLIC WORLD REPORT: The prayer service will be held at the Basilica of Santa Maria in Aracoeli in the afternoon on Tuesday, Oct. 20, and will include participants from other Christian traditions. Following the prayer, Pope Francis will also join in a ceremony with representatives of the world’s major religions, to take place in Campidoglio Square.

      The ecumenical service is called “An encounter of prayer for peace in the spirit of Assisi”, and the theme is “no one is saved alone” – peace and fraternity”.

      The square, which sits on Rome’s Capitoline Hill, was designed by Michelangelo. The square’s surrounding buildings house a city museum and Rome’s town hall. The Basilica of Santa Maria in Aracoeli is also on the Capitoline Hill.

      In addition to pope Francis, other participants will include ecumenical patriarch Bartholomew I of Constantinople; Haim Korsia, Chief Rabbi of France; Mohamed Abdelsalam Abdellatif, the Muslim General Secretary of the higher committee of human fraternity; and Buddhist Shoten Minegishi.

      The interreligious ceremony will follow the prayer service. It will include speeches, the proclamation and delivery of the 2020 Appeal for Peace, the lighting of a peace candle, and a socially distanced sign of peace. A minute of silence will be observed to remember the victims of wars and of the coronavirus pandemic.

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    • #38377
      Arthur
      Participant

      Hmmm…maybe the Frankenpope will pull strings to make peace between Armenia and Azerbaijan?

      The cat licks are still upset about the Armenian Church splitting from the cat lick church in 451 AD.

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    • #38385
      Tammie
      Participant

      That’s hilarious Arthur :mdrmdr: :mdrmdr: cat- lick :mdrmdr: :mdrmdr: freken -poop (slight change, extra o) :mdrmdr: :mdrmdr:

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    • #38391
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Again the politics of men don’t shape my faith or hope!

      As mentioned, Satan surely is tuned into the Church!  Even if he knew how near we are, what could he do differently?!

      His whole goal is to keep as many of God’s children from worshipping and loving Jesus!

      Those last seven years have been given to him by God!  Not for his purposes, but for God’s!

      TR

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    • #38408
      Tammie
      Participant

      Absolutely correct TR — he (satan) believes himself to be in charge, NOT! He walks to the beat of God’s drum and can only do what God allows him to and whatever he does, it is all to move God’s declared perfect Will forward to accomplish His Devine purpose. What an awesome Heavenly Father we have.
      The weekend is my typical days to add to my memory work and today I added a truly inspirational verse set, especially the last two verses …

      1 Corinthians 1:4-8 “I give thanks to my God always for you because of the grace of God that was given you in Christ Jesus, that in every way you were enriched in him in all speech and all knowledge, even as the testimony about Christ was confirmed among you, so that you are not lacking in any gift, <u>as you wait for the revealing of our Lord Jesus Christ, who will sustain you to the end, guiltless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ</u>.”

      :prayer-hands:

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    • #38575
      Amy
      Participant
      • #38583
        Tammie
        Participant

        Very interesting indeed — peer pressure — can be a beautiful thing :mdrmdr:

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    • #38582
      Amy
      Participant

      https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/netanyahu-katz-decide-not-to-surrender-to-blue-and-white-646258

      Will Israel dissolve the government and go back to elections now that the Abraham Accord has been passed? Will this breakdown usher in the chaos needed for the man of sin to be revealed?

      Gantz wants the budget passed by the end of October, perhaps Oct 31 we will get to go home?! :yahoo: :prayer-hands:

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      Leaving Soon
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