2020 Off with Severe Turbulence – Better Buckle-Up Part 8

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    • #39524
      Yohanan
      Moderator

      Time to turn the page………again! ;)

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    • #39528
      Arthur
      Participant

      Number 8. The number of New Beginnings.  :flyup:

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    • #39531
      Geri7
      Participant

      :amen:    8 is Enough chapters for closure from all the rollercoaster crazy events in 2020. :mail:    We are homeward bound. :yahoo:

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    • #39535
      Tammie
      Participant

      It certainly needs to be a short read! Are we there yet???? :unsure:

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    • #39537
      Geri7
      Participant

      Well we got this happening starting tomorrow in Paris … E-Mac is hosting a cyber Peace Forum Conference. :popcorn

      We are rapidly approaching … the Sunday, Nov 15th high watch date (Last of the super moons for 2020)

      Or do we need to hear … “peace and security” with the Abrahamic Accords signing event?   :unsure:

       

      – Fair Use –

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    • #39542
      Tammie
      Participant

      There is a call for a Trump rally in DC on Nov 14, could be so cool if the media (some part of it) covered the huge rally in DC and the trumpet blew, “where did they all go (or most of the believers in the group),” — world wide viewing! Awesome! :yahoo: :yahoo: :popcorn :popcorn :good: :prayer-hands: :flyup:

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      • #39555
        regina
        Participant

        the moon is completely dark on Nov 14

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    • #39571
      Arthur
      Participant

      Klaus Schwab using an interesting set of words that I don’t think are coincidental. He is talking about his plans for a great reset.

      “Radical changes of such consequence are coming that some pundits have referred to as ‘before coronavirus’ (BC) and ‘after coronavirus’ (AC) era. We will continue to be surprised by both the rapidity and unexpected nature of these changes – as they conflate with each other, they will provoke second-, third-, fourth- and more-order consequences, cascading effects and unforeseen outcomes,” he writes.

      Trying to parallel the Incarnation of Jesus of Christ with the unveiling of the Antichrist,  eh?  :stinkerbell:

      https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/globalist-klaus-schwab-world-will-never-return-normal-after-covid

      Oh and permanent mask wearing,  as well.  :stinkerbell:

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    • #39575
      Arthur
      Participant

      Lebanon looking for peace with Israel.

      Jerusalem Post

      “I think everybody at a certain point will move forward to have peace. We are tired.”

      Lebanese businessman and billionaire Bahaa Hariri, the brother of prime minister-designate Saad Hariri, stressed that Lebanon and Israel “need to have peace,” in an interview with Israeli journalist Barak Ravid published on American news outlet Axios on Tuesday.
      The interview raised controversy as it is illegal for Lebanese citizens to deal with Israelis or people or entities based in Israel in any form, directly or indirectly, including in media interviews, under the 1943 Lebanese Criminal Code and the 1955 Lebanese Anti-Israeli Boycott Law.

      https://m.jpost.com/middle-east/lebanon-pms-brother-calls-for-peace-in-interview-with-israeli-journalist-648727

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    • #39594
      Geri7
      Participant

      :popcorn

      Arabs states draw closer to Israel to counter non-Arab powers Turkey and Iran

      JNS.org

      (November 11, 2020 / JNS) The decision by three Arab states to make peace with Israel can be credited both to efforts by the Trump administration and the recognition by these Sunni states that their security would improve against the ongoing threats they face from Turkey and Iran.

      Iran and its proxies interfere with Arab states while promoting their Shi’ite revolutionary ideology; likewise, Turkey pushes its Sunni revolutionary ideology of the Muslim Brotherhood throughout the region.

      Turkey and Iran look to overthrow the Sunni Arab states that do not align with them, such as Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states. The normalization deals between the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain and Sudan have greatly upset Turkey and Iran, which ideologically view Israel as the enemy ,,,,

      – Fair Use –

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    • #39600
      Geri7
      Participant

      Hmmm …. got some more thoughts  … if this normalization deal has “greatly” upset Turkey and Iran … just think how upset will Iran be when they hear Trump is indeed the true winner of the Presidential elections for a 2nd Term. :mdrmdr:    Here Iran is counting on Traitor Joe to hand out the dough and remove the sanctions … they are REALLY going to be ticked off its not going as planned … so perhaps the have to go with Plan B … the G/M attack. ;-)    But they will time it perfectly with once “the many” also join the Abrahamic Accords so they can spoil the ceremony party … “while they are saying peace and safety sudden destruction” AND at the same time this occurs … we are flying away?

      :flyup: :flyup: :flyup: :flyup: :flyup: :flyup: :flyup: :flyup: :flyup: :flyup:

       

      The normalization deals between the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain and Sudan have greatly upset Turkey and Iran, which ideologically view Israel as the enemy ,,,,

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    • #39601
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Perhaps you can mention this to God next time you do lunch!

      Tell Him TR says Hi!

      TR

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    • #39606
      Blue
      Participant

      I saw that Pompeo is on foreign tour with his last stop in Saudi Arabia.  Turkey and Iran will be even more upset once Saudi Arabia joins the many.  Maybe there will be an announcement soon after and we will be out of here by the Nov. 29 anniversary of the UN partition plan.

      https://thediplomat.com/2020/11/pompeo-to-embark-on-foreign-tour-again/

      -Fair Use-

      Did everyone see this fun clip of Pompeo saying there would be a smooth transition to a second Trump term?

      -Fair Use-

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      • #39608
        Geri7
        Participant

        :mdrmdr: his confident facial expressions – I love it. :good:

        Nice … Nov 29th falls on a Sunday!  Marking my calendar :mail:  also on high alert for this Sunday as well …

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      • #39612
        Blue
        Participant

        Sunday the 22nd would be good too.  If his trip is through the 23rd, then he may meet with Saudi Arabia on the 22nd.  This might be when G/M decides they have had enough!

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    • #39609
      Geri7
      Participant

      I  got a hunch that the rapture will be on a Sunday based on …

      Revelation 1:9-10 & Revelation 4:1-2 … check out the verbiage

      I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

      I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

      Revelation 4:1-2

      After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

      And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

      —————-

      Resurrection happened on a Sunday ✔️

      Pentecost happen on a Sunday ✔️

      Does anybody know if Ascension Day (Acts 1:11) also occur on a Sunday?

       

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    • #39610
      Arthur
      Participant

      Ascension Day is 10 days before Pentecost so it would not be on a Sunday but on a a Thursday.

      Trivia: I was born on a Thursday. ;-)

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    • #39616
      Tammie
      Participant

      More trivia, my hubby was born on 11/22 and myself on 11/23 … so rapture is a great B-gift, awe thanks guys, but you shouldn’t have :heart: :mdrmdr:

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    • #39641
      Geri7
      Participant

      :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn

      3 Reasons to expect a potential US-Israeli strike on Iran in December 

      Israel365news.com
      By David Sidman | NOV 12, 2020 | US-Israeli Relations

      It’s no secret that tensions between Washington and Teheran have been tense since Trump’s inauguration in 2016, recent developments indicate that a potential joint Israel/US strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities could be closer than we realize.

      Why Trump Terminated Esper

      US President Donald Trump has fired his defense secretary, Mark Esper earlier this week. And while many speculate that the reason is because Esper was at odds with his boss over deploying US troops into cities during violent Black Lives Matter protests, there could have been another reason for the move that many seem to be overlooking.

      Elissa Slotkin, an ex-Obama administration official at the Defense Department, spoke about Esper’s termination saying that : ‘There would only be a few reasons to fire a secretary of defense with 72 days left in an administration.

      One of those was because the president wants to take actions that he believes his secretary of defense would refuse to take. She then described that scenario as “alarming.”

      Other disagreements Esper had with his boss

      What actions could she be referring to? Aside from disputing Trump on troop deployment into US cities, Esper also contradicted Trump on Iran and the assassination of top IRGC general Quassem Soliemani – walking back some of the Commander in Chief’s statements. But that’s not all.

      The New York Times reported that ‘Defense Department officials have privately expressed worries that the president might initiate operations, whether overt or secret, against Iran or other adversaries during his last days in office.’

       

      His replacement is more hawkish on Iran

      Trump then appointed Esper’s replacement, Christopher Miller, the director of the National Counterterrorism Center. Officials claim that  Miller was a driving force in some of Trump’s policies against Iran and its terror proxy, Hezbollah. He was also a catalyst for anti-terror efforts in both Syria and Iraq.

       

      Former Top Security Officials speak out

      And although those officials remain anonymous, former National Security Advisor H.R McMaster went on the record saying that “it’s a possibility” Israel will strike Iran’s nuclear sites before Trump leaves office.”

      Finally, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo’s has planned an upcoming visit to Israel where he will meet with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to discuss “joint efforts to address Iran’s malign activities.”

      According to Israel’s Walla military reporter Avi Bohbot:“Pompeo’s visit appears to be a last ditch effort to move against Iran” adding that IDF sources report that the Israeli Military’s commander in Chief Aviv Kochavi is “extremely concerned” about a the prospect of a Biden administration.

      He is then scheduled to meet with Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed “to discuss security cooperation and regional issues.” Pompeo is also set to visit Qatar where he will discuss “bilateral and regional issues, including the importance of Gulf unity.”

       

      The one thing that can unite Gulf States 

      And if there’s anything that the Gulf can unite around, it is their opposition to Iran as demonstrated in the annual Gulf Co-operation Council summit where GCC member states were in agreement that ‘the greatest threat to the region was Iran.’

      The speculation surrounding an imminent strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities could be compounded by a reportpublished in September by the Institute for Science and International Security, “Iran’s estimated breakout time as of late September 2020 is as short as 3.5 months.3.5 months from September is late December-early January, just before the time when President Trump or former VP Biden’s inauguration takes place.

      – Fair Use –

       

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    • #39642
      Arthur
      Participant

      Russia getting cozy with Sudan? Interesting…

      Russia Set to Establish Naval Logistics Base In Sudan

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    • #39644
      Leaving Soon
      Participant

      They are telling us that since Nov. 4th there have been 100k+ new cases of you know what every single day here in America.

      https://covidtracking.com/data/charts/us-daily-positive

      And in just the past 24 hours they are saying 186,249 new confirmed cases here in America.

      https://www.bing.com/search?q=covid+deaths&src=IE-SearchBox&FORM=IESR4S&pc=EUPP_

      I have to wonder if a total and complete lockdown is about to happen. And how long will it last ?

       

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      • #39756
        Blue
        Participant

        Do you think the lockdown will be tied to the expected destruction?  On Oct. 22, Paul Begley show MFATW was talking about the destruction coming and he said then that it was hitting Mars and it would take 2 months to get here.  I know some people don’t like Begley’s sensationalism, but I always try to listen in on MFATW. Been waiting on this destruction to hit for several months.

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      • #39757
        Leaving Soon
        Participant

        I don’t know but last week I was listening to Hal Turner and he said that one of his sources said that something was going to happen on Nov 17th something that nobody will ever forget.

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    • #39645
      Leaving Soon
      Participant

      And I just came across this. Trump says 20 million Americans will get a Covid vaccine before this year ends.

      https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/11/13/20-million-americans-will-get-a-covid-vaccine-this-year-trump-says/24689994/

       

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    • #39646
      Arthur
      Participant

      Elon Musk tests positive twice and negative twice in one day. The tests are obviously a joke. Will be buried by the media, of course. :negative:

      Tesla founder Elon Musk says he has tested positive for the novel coronavirus while also testing negative, offering a skeptical view of the validity of the procedures.

      In a series of tweets early Friday, Musk said he had conflicting results from rapid “antigen” tests for Covid-19 after he had “mild sniffles & cough & slight fever” in recent days.

      “Something extremely bogus is going on. Was tested for covid four times today,” he wrote. “Two tests came back negative, two came back positive. Same machine, same test, same nurse.”

      Musk, who earlier this year dismissed concerns about the pandemic and fought lockdown orders in California, said he planned to take the more accurate PCR test which must be sent to a lab for analysis.

      The rapid antigen tests have gained ground in recent weeks in view of backlogs at laboratories, but they are less sensitive to small amounts of virus and more likely to deliver a false negative.

      In March, Musk appeared to dismiss concerns about the pandemic, saying that “my guess is that the panic will cause more harm than the virus.”

      Two months later he defied lockdown orders in California to reopen the Tesla assembly plant, daring authorities to arrest him.

      Tesla’s Elon Musk tests positive — and negative — for virus

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    • #39651
      Geri7
      Participant

      Oh no, say it ain’t so …    :calvin    the coffee bean judgement is underway but not the leaves to make the tea ;-)  still safe as can be … hee hee hee :whistle:
      Will coffee prices rise after back-to-back hurricanes hit Central America?

      AccuWeather.com

      Published Nov. 13, 2020 3:17 pm

      Now the region is facing another tropical threat as Iota is tracking toward across the Caribbean Sea and is forecast to be a hurricane before it hits Central America almost directly where Eta made landfall. The back-to-back hurricanes will take an economic toll on a valuable crop: coffee.

      Honduras is the biggest grower of coffee in the region, followed by Nicaragua and Guatemala. Combined, these three countries account for around 8% of the world’s coffee output. In Honduras alone, coffee is a $1 billion industry that generates 1 million jobs and accounts for 30% of the country’s Gross Domestic Agricultural Product, according to the Honduran Coffee Institute, a leading trade group in the country’s coffee industry.

      AccuWeather estimates that during Eta, there was a 10% loss of Central American coffee, mainly because of roads being washed out and coffee not making it to the market, AccuWeather Senior Meteorologist Dave Samuhel, who works on the company’s commodities forecasting team, said.

      This could be compounded by the strike predicted early next week from Iota.

      AccuWeather estimates that additional impacts from Iota could be as much as another 10% to perhaps 25% loss as the region could be more susceptible to damage in the wake of Eta, Samuhel said.

      Even if the coffee plants are unharmed after both storms, the significant rain could cause the coffee to mature too quickly and affect its quality, said Lila Sevilla, president of the National Alliance of Nicaraguan Coffee Producers told The Associated Press. The damage to the roads across the countries could also slow the harvest of the quickly ripening plants, The Associated Press reported.

      The loss of coffee crop in Honduras, Nicaragua and Guatemala could result in higher prices for wholesale coffee buyers but may not be enough to have a substantial impact on prices for everyday coffee drinkers.

      “Brazil is the number one coffee producer, accounting for 38% of the wold’s coffee,” Samuhel said. “Vietnam is second, providing 17% of the global supply.”

      – Fair Use –

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      • #39668
        Tammie
        Participant

        :calvin :calvin say it ain’t so…..oh the heartbreak….what will all of us in healthcare do without a great cup ‘o Joe??? We need to go home now, this is just horrific, coffee shortages is just not a joke … sorrow upon sorrow :mdrmdr: :mdrmdr:

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    • #39652
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Talk about short tempers!  All we need now is a disruption in cell phone usage!  Talk about riots!

      Like taking tea away from Britains!

      Forget climate change or war.  What else could they confiscate?

      TR

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    • #39653
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Hellhound via deprivation!

      TR

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    • #39664
      Arthur
      Participant

      The mocking of twitter and its absurd censorship. Pure comedy gold! :mdrmdr:

      https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/11/14/meme-makers-mock-twitter-as-site-ramps-up-fact-checking/

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    • #39665
      Geri7
      Participant

      Yep, this pic has me cracking up …

      – Fair Use –

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      • #39669
        Tammie
        Participant

        I have up loaded Newsmax, great conservative news channel, done with Fox, except the occasional Tucker Carlson…fake news, we need to crash the ratings … no CNN, no NBC, no ABC, nodda! Join the OAN and or Newsmax move… :yahoo:

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    • #39673
      Arthur
      Participant

      I have had my you tube account terminated for supposed hate speech. I have used you tube for 15 years and have never gotten a complaint or strike against me. Supposedly I have been repeatedly in violation of their hate speech laws (ie wrong-think) although they refused to show me any examples. They sent me an automated reply saying my appeal was rejected. :negative:

      Moving on to greener pastures. May google, fakebook, twitter, cnn,  etc. go the way of the buggy whip factories.

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      • #39674
        regina
        Participant

        i never even got to see one rotten thing you did

        :cry:

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      • #39676
        Tammie
        Participant

        Arthur, I switched to Parler, instead of Twitter- I like it better, a bit of a learning curve but easy enough. :wacko:

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      • #39677
        Arthur
        Participant

        I have never used twitter.  I will look at Parler and Gab.  I have heard good things about both.

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    • #39675
      MyWhiteStone
      Moderator

      Maybe YouTube could redeem themselves by establishing a Pariah Channel — i.e., their rejects.  They could charge admission and make a bundle.

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    • #39706
      Leaving Soon
      Participant

      Somebody named Brenda left this comment on a YT video. It deserves a trillion likes.

      First phase : no mask no service

      Second phase : no vaccine no service

      Third phase : no chip no service.

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    • #39734
      Arthur
      Participant

      Pathetic Pope pushing freedom from “fossil fuels. ” Pffffff!

      All about the Great Reset/Agenda 2030 garbage. It’s global warming repackaged.

      https://www.breitbart.com/environment/2020/11/16/vatican-praises-faith-based-divestment-from-fossil-fuels/

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      • #39739
        Geri7
        Participant

        Yep … I got some condo neighbors who drank the kool-aid and traded in their vehicles for electric cars and they are the same ones who can’t wait for the vaxx so they can take off the mask.  They are walking right into the trap …

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      • #39741
        regina
        Participant

        the electric cars are very limited. a family member has one. it only has enough power for getting to work and back, and he has to charge it overnight. once when his wife needed to go to urgent care, there was not enough charge in it, so they took her car, old fashioned gasoline powered.

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      • #39751
        Geri7
        Participant

        Yeah … I was just reading about the electric cars … they aren’t cheap and you’re constantly recharging the battery daily.   And if you don’t use the car for a couple of days … it will lose its charge.  And the fact you mentioned you can’t drive very far with it … sounds more like a luxury golf cart.  My dad had a hybrid pick-up truck when they first came out and we didn’t like it.  As we traveled down to Myrtle Beach we were stuck in traffic jams … Washington DC had the worse pile up with the commuters and while idling that’s when the electricity kicked in but there was a serious flaw because it would completely shut off the AC unit. :wacko:   Plus when you turned off the engine it wouldn’t save the settings for the AC to kick in when you started the engine again.  Always constantly pressing a button.  He also didn’t see that big of a savings on gas either so he only kept it for 2 yrs and traded it in for regular all gas pick-up.

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    • #39740
      Lee Giblin
      Participant

      Geri, it sounds like my kids and their friends. :(

      I’m running out of dates only have 11/21 & 11/28 unless we are off a month?

      Pastor Dana’s 12/17 coffin might fit in a strange way?

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      • #39754
        Blue
        Participant

        I am watching those days too.  11/21-22 and 11/28-29.  Have you ever heard the fall feasts spoken of as mirroring the spring feasts? On that theory, I was thinking that Jesus ascended 10 days before Pentecost…so maybe He will return for us 10 days before Hanukkah.  I looked on the Essene calendar to see when that is and it is 11/29!  I have seen other people watching for December 3….as flood day for those who think we are off a whole month.  I don’t know which calendar that is.  But 7 days before that would be get on the ark day and that would land on Thanksgiving day. So these days are right after Pompeo’s foreign tour. Did you see the headline on Drudge today…”Trump Grand Finale: Bomb Iran”…? I am sure Iran is keeping an eye on the speculation also.

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    • #39764
      Geri7
      Participant

      Leaving Soon …said on  “Hal Turner show .. something was going to happen on Nov 17th (Q?) something that nobody will ever forget.”     Hmmm perhaps a BIG speech today? :unsure:

      After reading a lot of comments from the Q followers … here are their interpretation on the roll-out of the vaxx … not sure if this is all true or just wishful thinking on their Q-tips drops but it sure is interesting … :popcorn

      One person said

      “When Trump mentions the virus … this means the shenanigans of the deep state … when Trump mentions they have the vaxx cure … this means rounding them up and putting them away in jail.”

      Another said

      “You have to read between the lines…he said the vaccine will be delivered by the military…he never says directly it’s a shot for us.  The  million shots could mean a million military personal placed strategically round the globe to assist with arrests and to protect the general public :)”

      Another said

      “The vax-cin is not what you think it is. With the children he and the military are vax-ing the scene.   As for anything from a needle will be a good therapeutic that will benefit many. ie Regeneron or Hqc based. Don’t forget all the Del Bigtree has done with lawsuits in regards to safety. It’s all setting the scene for big pHarma to hang them selves. It will be epic.”

      Another said

      “They say that he’s giving big pharm a rope to hang themselves right now, guidelines were set, and they haven’t met those guidelines and as soon as they announce they have the vaccine he’s going to ask them about these guidelines cuz he knows they haven’t done it and he’s going to take them down with everybody else.  I know that I can’t take anymore we are a slave planet he’s trying to free us this is way worse than what you think.”

      – Fair Use –

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      My take from reading a lot of other comments … a lot of people in the world are watching what is happening over here … they know if America turns socialist and no longer independent and free … its all over for the rest of the world too and the NWO will be in place.  With that said … could it be … “on a day we think not for our Blessed Hope” is actually when Trump gives his BIG announcement proving he is the true winner of the elections and he also includes the words “peace and safety”?  :unsure:  and then BAM … the rapture happens and chaos and riots happen … including the G/M attack?   Then the AC rises with the answers and strengthens the Abrahamic Accords to bring a false sense of peace and security to the Middle East? :unsure:

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    • #39772
      Arthur
      Participant

      Creepy Klaus at it again with his great reset.  *Ugh*

      Globalist Klaus Schwab made it clear that transhumanism is an integral part of “The Great Reset” when he said that the fourth industrial revolution would “lead to a fusion of our physical, digital and biological identity,” which in his book he clarifies is implantable microchips that can read your thoughts.

      Klaus Schwab: Great Reset Will “Lead to a Fusion of Our Physical, Digital and Biological Identity”

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    • #39777
      Arthur
      Participant

      I desire to travel and live in another country.  My native country is rapidly becoming unrecognizable.

      Where shall I go,  though?  I am sure all countries will be in the same situation.

      Never have I more longed for the Rapture.  Lord Jesus Christ,  take us home.  Remove us from this wicked world.  :prayer-hands:

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