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    • #2531
      Vicky’s watching
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      In my words, I can see what is being said here, how the world doesn’t even know Jesus is returning. No one is watching or listening to the signs coming everyday in the world, but when your a person who loves Jesus, has experienced His love, His blessings, you know the time is drawing near, you realize true Christians are not playing any games, but our serious in their walk with Him.  Staying close to Jesus is not hard because the world is so evil, it actually pushes us closer to Him, not further away.  Living for Jesus is like be married your entire life and you never give up on that marriage, you keep loving and forgiving till death do you part or we fly away!

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    • #2548
      Yohanan
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      Hi Vicky! Good video. I’ve always liked David Wilkerson. His book “The Vision” was an interesting read in the ’70’s but seemed far fetched at the time. I reread the book about ten years ago and it was like reading old newspaper headlines!

      I like his admonishment that we should take our relationship with our Savior more seriously as many Christians hardly ever open their Bibles or spend much time in adoration of Jesus. There is absolutely nothing that can compare to spending time in His presence. :prayer-hands:

      With that said, I would like to make a comment or two about what Wilkerson said, if I understood it correctly, that I do not agree with. The part about true believer’s still being in danger of having the door shut on them, using the parable of the virgins as his example. No true Christian, whether he/she slumbers or becomes lazy will be rejected by God. Disciplined, maybe/probably, but not rejected. Even the disciples fell asleep in the Garden of Gethsemane. Again, if I understood Wilkerson correctly, he implies that it is by our continual works that keep us saved, which I do not believe. Secondly, concerning the parable of the virgins, he implies that we can change over from a wise virgin to the foolish by running out of oil but that is not true. Oil represents the Holy Spirit and the parable represents those who have received it and those who rejected it by rejecting Christ.

      What I really like, much more than the video, were your words below it! I don’t believe it could have been said any better! Thank you for your wisdom and insight. I am so glad you shared it with us :rose:

       

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    • #2553
      tenderreed
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      Yohanan, by the way how is Steve???

      TR

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      • #2568
        Yohanan
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        There has been no change in his condition. Still praying for a miracle.

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    • #2554
      tenderreed
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      Seems to me, a true Christian is one who imitates Christ!  Salvation is not conditional and doesn’t come up for review every six months!

      Though He loves us with a perfect love, ours is truly imperfect.  His love is truly greater than ours!  Grace covers our Love!

      TR

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    • #2559
      Vicky’s watching
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      We live in such a sad and scary time, but our Lord is saying hang on, I’m coming. I love reading what other people say, it helps me stay focused on watching and waiting. Thank you for sharing your thoughts, we all need them so much now. That’s why God has made us all different with different gifts to help each other! Love all of you thru our Lord. :thankyou

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    • #2562
      tenderreed
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      I agree dear sister!

      TR

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    • #2570
      Yohanan
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      Yes, absolutely, Vicky!

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    • #2588
      Blake7
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      Galatians 2: 20  I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. Christ already lives in us, yes by our faith. A true Christian lives by faith . Jesus Christ our salvation is our risen savior. Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1.  for we walk by faith, not by sight–2 Corinthians 5:7

      Just keep the faith, wonderful things are on the way, very soon I pray.

      Thank you Vicky

      Love in Christ Blake

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    • #2597
      MyWhiteStone
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      Relative to David Wilkerson’s  message perhaps it would help to consider 1) Salvation and 2) Sanctification to be two distinct but closely related elements of the Christian faith.

      Salvation is available only through believing in the blood of Jesus Christ shed for the believer.  Period! The role of the Christian in their own Salvation ends with his or her belief. The Holy Spirit is always given at the moment of belief, immediately sealing the believer for redemption at the last day, which is for us, the day of the Resurrection / Rapture event.  All believers go in the Rapture!

      Sanctification includes ongoing work for the Lord and the development of a personal relationship with the Lord.  This very much depends on the believer’s own personal participation with, passion for, and pursuit of the Lord.  His spiritual sleepiness or lackadaisical attitude could affect him in the Eternal Kingdom.  Such wood, hay, and stubble being burned into oblivion… (1 Corinthians 3)

      Relative to “oil,” the Matthew 25 virgins passage concerns the Second Coming, not the Rapture.

      David Wilkerson loved and served God, but could have honestly rejected dispensationalism and the pre-Trib Rapture as true, such teachings coming from his early 20th Century educational heritage within old mainline denomination seminaries — institutions who still, by the way, widely promote amillennial teaching. (If folks listening to such lessons can stay awake.) :whistle: Even Replacement Theology still abounds.  Regardless, David Wilkerson will be resurrected!  Maybe he and others will be surprised to see certain individuals in the Resurrection / Rapture though.

      :unsure: :-( :scratch:

       

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    • #2615
      Dave Lawson
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      Very well said MyWhiteStone!   It seems people often confuse the requirements for Salvation with the process of Sanctification.  Pastor J.D. Farag has done an excellent job of laying out how simple God has made it for people to come to Him.  Admit your a sinner, Believe in your heart that Jesus Christ died for those sins, was buried and God raised Him from the dead, and then Call upon the name of the Lord!   Regrettably there will be many who will realize in horror at the Great White Throne Judgement at how simply it was to avoid it.

      Sanctification looks different for everyone.  It seems we often compare how God is sanctifying us personally with how He is sanctifying someone else and judge their salvation because of the differences.

      Love these discussions btw.  Though I don’t always have the time to read all of them.

      Glad to see RITAN back!!!

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    • #2616
      Vicky’s watching
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      When I was first saved, all I did was just learn about Jesus. put as much about Him in my heart from His words with the Spirit helping me. No one even talked about the return of Jesus at that time, of course in my heart I knew Jesus was coming again, but didn’t teach it at all. The church I attend NEVER talks about Jesus return and it’s sad, people are not thinking about it. I had a woman tell me she only goes to church to socialize and work as a organizer of events, as she did in college.  People in church don’t even know Jesus, not all, but some and they don’t even know who he is, so that’s why I put this on, we need to get serious about Jesus now. We see the signs everyday of His Return, the world is in total confusion, sin, I have never seen before coming out, as I know you see.  Now, it’s becoming serious, we are at the door with Jesus about to open it. Our walk should be one of hugging Jesus every day and when He opens that door, we’ll jump in His arms, & say, Take Us Away, we are ready.

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    • #2618
      Yohanan
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      Vicky’s watching said: “we’ll jump in His arms, & say, Take Us Away, we are ready.”

      Like this!:

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    • #2630
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Like the old Bill Gaither diddy from the 70’s.

      I just keep falling in love with Him, over and over again.  Our love gets sweeter as the days go by, Oh what a love between my Lord and I.  Just keep falling in love with Him!

      TR

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    • #2757
      tenderreed
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      Another tell tale sign of a true Christian IMHO, is someone who hates what God hates, and loves what God loves! :prayer-hands:

      TR

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