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    • #71128
      Loz
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      All of Daniel’s 70 Weeks Start and End Points

      Heather R

      Streamed live 11 hours ago

      “Fair Use For Education and Discussion Purposes”

      Loz :]

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    • #71129
      Geri9
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      :thankyou  Heather!   I see the pattern with Nisan 10 … nice! :good:

      There are so many calendars out there … do you know what calendar we should be observing?  For instance, on the Hebcalendar Nisan 10 falls on Tuesday, March 23rd. :whistle:

      And do we need to be in-sync with the Jubilee year to line up for the rapture year or is it reserved for the 2nd coming or for the start of the Millennium period?

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    • #71130
      Heather R
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      I’m going to refrain from discussing the year at this point, but suffice it to say Ezekiel’s vision points to the construction of his temple in a jubilee year. The template given in the vision will be replicated when what the vision is about comes to fruition.

      There’s another template in Joshua to explain the 7 years between entering the land and commencing sabbatical cycles, and parceling the lots to the tribes per Numbers 36. That same 7 years is replicated between Ezekiel 40-42 (beginning) and Ezekiel 43 (ending) where we see the final purpose for the 70 Weeks accomplished by the anointing of the most holy.

      Ezekiel 48 ends with the parceling of the lots to the 12 Tribes, and that is also date-specific. Daniel 12:13… after 1335 days from the Abomination of Desolation,  Daniel will be standing in his lot.

      Everything is much more specific than it’s given credit for!

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    • #71134
      Rick Jones
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      Hi Heather, thank you for the template. I wanted to mention how God uses the current calendar and the Hebrew calendar together. We know from scripture that the women went to the tomb on the first day of the week. That must have been the Roman calendar 1st day because Jesus had died for our sins 3 days earlier on Passover. In the Hebrew calendar Passover is always on the 14th day of Nisan. 14 is a multiple of seven so it is always on the 1st day of the Hebrew week. Since Jesus rose again on the 3rd day we see there is a 3 day offset between the Hebrew and Roman calendar. God used the 3 day offset in prophecy where He had Jonah inside the belly of the whale for 3 days and 3 nights.

      Another interesting thing about this year’s month of Nisan. Nisan 1 falls on a Sunday which is also the first day of the week. For 14 days the Gregorian calendar is in sync with the Hebrew calendar.

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      • #71142
        Heather R
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        Rick, the first day of the week was Sunday. Palm Sunday is named that for a reason, because the Triumphal Entry that year was on Nisan 10 which was a Sunday. Four days later, on Passover which would have been a Thursday, Jesus died. They buried Him before evening began because the next day which, as you rightly pointed out, was the first day of Unleavened Bread which was a sabbath. He spent the following days and nights buried (3 days and 3 nights):

        Buried on Thursday before the sun set at the end of Passover, from 3-6 PM Thursday Day (Day 1)

        Friday Evening (Night 1) (start of the 15th)

        Friday Day (Day 2)

        Saturday Evening (Night 2) (start of the 16th)

        Saturday Day (Day 3)

        Sunday Evening (Night 3) (start of the 17th)

        Rose on Sunday before morning broke on the 1st day of the Week. This is why we go to church on Sundays and not Saturdays… celebrating Resurrection Sunday. I’m not sure what you mean by Nisan 14 always being on the first day of the Week. It wasn’t the week Christ died.

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    • #71135
      grumpyoldchristian
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      I wonder if the start of the year on Nisan 1 and the start of the “week” cycle ten days later on Nisan 10 might be a time of warning to the world to get right with God before the Church is removed? Maybe we get to do some heavy evangelization next week. :good:

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    • #71136
      regina
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      who knows about the 23rd.

      its israel’s election, the 4th one in 2 years. wouldnt that be :popcorn time if the many, the citizens, put a government in place for 7 years (because of all the elections they have recently been through) that would agree to go ahead with building the third temple

       

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    • #71137
      regina
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    • #71138
      Rick Jones
      Participant

      Sorry everyone, I should clear up a mistake I made in my comment above. Nisan 14 is always on the last day of the week not the first. Even so, Passover of that year was on the Roman equivalent to our day called Thursday. Unleavened bread was at sundown right after Jesus’ body was placed in the tomb. If the calendar had been Hebrew the feast of unleaven bread would have gone for 7 days, but because it was the Roman calendar the next sundown was Saturday the Sabbath. According to Lev 23:11 “on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it”, the morrow after was Sunday the day Jesus rose from the grave. God used the combination of the Roman calendar and the Hebrew calendar to fulfill the 3 feasts in 3 days.

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    • #71143
      Heather R
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      I feel like it’s misleading to post the start and end date info without giving full context for the rest of the research which paints the entire picture. However, I’m reluctant to do this since you all are looking for this year.

      Here is the rest of the research which includes the Nisan 10 info.

      https://www.academia.edu/43699089/The_Jubilee_and_Ezekiels_Temple

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    • #71145
      Geri9
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      Thank you for your research paper and charts!  This is very helpful …

      So the last Jubilee (69th) was in 1973 (6th day war) then add 50 years = 2024 is the 70th  Jubliee of when the tribulation period should start and it will occur on Nisan 10?  And the 2nd Coming will also be on Nisan 10?

      I’m not discouraged because I personally believe there hast to be a gap in time from the rapture event to the start of the tribulation in order to fit in …

      the reunion celebration in the sky

      the Judgement Seat of Christ

      the praise ceremony

      then we watch Jesus open up the seals and observe what is taken place on the earth … as the riders of the 4 horses come out of the gates.

      So I’m still looking up for this year to be our home going and then 2 years from now the tribulation will perhaps start. :whistle:

      My question then is if the Rapture/ start of the trib/ 2nd Coming are reserved for Nisan 10 how does Jesus fulfill Feast of Trumpets/Rosh Hashanah?   I have Yom Kippur reserved for the judgment/separation of sheep and goats (who will enter into the millennium period) and Feast of Tabernacles (God dwelling with man) as the start of the Millennium period.

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      • #71150
        Heather R
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        Unpopular idea forthcoming –

        There are no outstanding legal fulfillment, and by necessity, there cannot be. Jesus declared the law, its works, and transgressions under it to be finished, then died and ushered in the New Covenant immediately. Can not go backwards. Moreover, Leviticus is for Levitical priesthood to mediate with a sacrificial system which Jesus put an end to. He’s the High Priest from the tribe of Judah. Again, cannot go backwards. To start with Passover re:fulfillments is to overlook much.

        Galatians 4 says when the fulness of times came, Jesus was born under the law to redeem a people from the curse of the law.

        Have to be born first. Tabernacles was Jesus’s birth fulfilling Haggai 2 and John 1:14 says the Word became flesh and tabernacled among men. Also see references in Hebrews 10:5 and 2:14-15.

        Can’t die for everyone’s sins as the Lamb if He didn’t have any sin to die for (2 Cor 5:21) Leviticus 16’s scapegoat bears sins. This was the purpose of His baptism, to assume the role of the scapegoat. That is done on the Day of Atonement. His ministry ran from Tishri 10 to Nisan 10 (3.5 years). Additionally, He was Leviticus 25:9’s Trump of jubilee via Luke 4. OT jubilee = NT liberty via the forgiveness of sin which is why assuming the role of the scapegoat first was necessary.

        Trumpets = Hebrews 1:1-2. Incarnation of the Creator who was to become Savior. It referred to His whole ministry. Voice of God on earth. Also see Colossians 1-2.

        Then Passover (died for sins under Old Covenant, shed blood token of New Covenant)

        Then Unleavened Bread (sinless Bread of Life)

        Then Firstfruits (resurrection)

        Then Pentecost (Spirit sent)

        They were all shadows pointing to Christ. And they weren’t about what He did. They were about who He is. The first 3 were re: Old Covenant. The last 4 re: New Covenant. It is necessary that Pentecost beast because it is open ended. Everyone who believes from Acts 2 forward will receive that Spirit.

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      • #71152
        Heather R
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        Oh, and to your point… I never said the rapture was reserved for Nisan 10. The rapture isn’t in the OT, so the timeline has nothing to do with that. What I said is the start and end of Weeks are given specifically, including the outstanding one. And I said evidence of the rapture having occurred by the start of the final Week is evidenced in Revelation. In that book, I referenced Rev 6-7. But that evidence is in 4-5, 7-8. Just to be clear, I never and would never date the rapture. Other than to say it’s pretrib.

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        • #71155
          Geri9
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          Oops sorry about that in misunderstanding the rapture lands on Nisan 10.

          I’m curious about Feast of Tabernacles … during your study were you able to find the timeline date that might have occurred on?

          Because there are so many views on the birthday of Jesus.  Some feel Jesus birth occurred in the spring time because that is the only time sheep give birth.

          I used to listen to this radio preacher in Florida … he had this view… with the date of priestly service of Zacharias during the Jewish two-week “course of Abia.” He claimed the course of Abia ended July 31st and the conception of Zacharias’ son, John the Baptist occurred that night.  Then 6 months later would bring us to January 31st when Mary visited Elizabeth to relay the Good News she was chosen to house the body of Jesus and John the Baptist leaped for joy in Elizabeth’s womb.  Then 9 months from January 31st announcement would take us to October 31st.  So if that was the real earthly birthday … how fitting satan stole that holiday away since he wants to be  just like God.

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          • #71158
            Heather R
            Participant

            I have a written study on the timing of John the Baptist and Jesus, yes. John was probably born on Passover. Jesus was born 6 months later on Tabernacles. His birth was on Tishri 15. The 7th Day of the feast is what Haggai’s prophecy regards, the anointing of the holy place by the physical presence of Christ. That’s the day Mary would have had to be declared clean after childbirth (Leviticus 12). Hence, Jesus’s first time being at that temple. The next day, He would have been circumcised according to the law, also in Leviticus 12. That’s what the 8th day assembly from Leviticus 23 pointed to. The first and 8th days of Tabernacles were solemn assemblies pointing to the birth and circumcision of Christ.

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    • #71163
      Arthur
      Participant

      I remember Josephus stating that 23-22 BC was a Jubilee year.

      Curious as to how 2024 is a Jubilee year. Apologies if you explained it all, already. I haven’t watched the video, yet. :P

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      • #71164
        Heather R
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        It’s not in the video. It’s in the link I posted.

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    • #71166
      Arthur
      Participant

      Ok. Thank you. Will look for it there. :)

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    • #71170
      Arthur
      Participant

      I skimmed through it and see where you are going. It is terrible on my phone, though. Lol. Will check on ipad later.

      Agree with your position on the Temple being in the City of David.

      The destruction of Jerusalem in 588 BC rather than 586 BC is new to me. Very intriguing. :good:

      Thank you for your hard work. :thankyou

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    • #71570
      Heather R
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      While there is nothing that has to happen before the rapture, there is something which needs to happen before the start of the 70th Week. It’s the unifying event which brings Israel back to “one” for the purpose of doing something as “one” – confirming the covenant. Gog and Magog needs to happen. Just a reminder… We will be removed when it’s time for God to dish out that punishment. It’s not time yet.

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    • #71605
      regina
      Participant

      about the white horse of Rev 6. we’ve heard that this represents a false peace or covenant.

      the bible says

      New International Version
      I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.

      New Living Translation
      I looked up and saw a white horse standing there. Its rider carried a bow, and a crown was placed on his head. He rode out to win many battles and gain the victory.

      English Standard Version
      And I looked, and behold, a white horse! And its rider had a bow, and a crown was given to him, and he came out conquering, and to conquer.

      Berean Study Bible
      So I looked and saw a white horse, and its rider held a bow. And he was given a crown, and he rode out to overcome and conquer.

      New King James Version
      And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.

      New American Standard Bible
      I looked, and behold, a white horse, and the one who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.

      maybe the conquering isn’t taking over by “peace” but by international pressured submission and cooperation to protect against diseases or climate change, conquering individual nations without an arrow, riding in like a savior on a white horse because the (new) government is your friend and here to help you. if someone were to disagree, that would make them an enemy of the (new) kingdom (Dan 7:23). just thinking… :scratch:

      :flyup:

       

       

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    • #71624
      Heather R
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      The conquering will be more than likely physical violence. In keeping consistency with the rider on the white horse from Revelation 19, the “conquering” is judging and making war. I don’t think we have any reason to suspect the Rev 6 rider will be “peaceful”. Peace may be an expected byproduct of having confirmed the covenant, as far as Israel is concerned, but we don’t actually see that in the OT or even in Revelation, with regard to events of the 70th Week. Millennial Kingdom, yes. But not the 70th Week, especially not after the locust army is released. It’s all about conquest, especially the second half of the Week. Deceiving by peace per Daniel 8:23-25 is re: the second half of the Week, pertaining to Revelation 13. They’ll have “peace” if they worship the beast, his image, or take his mark. Except then, those are the first people the vial judgments are aimed at.

      The covenant confirmation relates to the “bow”, and it is also used as an “in the place of” the real Christ. In Revelation 6 & 19, we see the contrast of the riders, the crowns (stephanos vs. diadems, given status vs. royal birthright as King of Kings and Lord of Lords), and the setting forth conquering and to conquer. The piece that isn’t expressly stated in Revelation 19 regards the “bow”.

      In the OT, specifically in Genesis 9, we are first introduced to the bow being symbolic of a covenant being in place. In Revelation, the bow doesn’t reference the Noahic covenant; it just represents a covenant is in place. That’s the Daniel 9:27 covenant to reference Seal 1 as the start of the final Week of years. It is not the New Covenant since Revelation 4 already depicted the New Covenant via the rainbow round about the throne in sight like unto an emerald (emerald representing Judah, and the One who mediates the New Covenant which the rainbow represents is from the tribe of Judah).

      We know the bow in Rev 6:2 wouldn’t be the New Covenant; rather it would be the covenant which the 70th Week regards. Reading Daniel 9, we learn that is the Old Covenant. Not only does Rev 6:1-2 tell us in Revelation that the Week has begun, it also draws the final contrast to Rev 19’s rider on the white horse. The OT prophecies also state He will bring a covenant with Him when He returns.

      Hosea 6 & Joel 2 refer to this. Jesus is the former rain given moderately. After, He ascended, the latter rain was sent. That was the Comforter He prophesied about. The Comforter came on Pentecost in Acts 2 and is the token of the New Covenant. Thus, when the former rain returns, it will be with the latter rain also.

      Hosea 6:1 Come, and let us return unto the Lord: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up. 2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight. 3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the Lord: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth.

      Joel 2:23 Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the Lord your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month.

      Israel will have just been brought into New Covenant relationship with Jesus prior to His return. This is documented in Revelation 19:7-9. He returns in Revelation 19:11. Jeremiah 31:31-34 prophesies about the time when Israel will be brought into New Covenant and receive the Spirit.

      So really, it’s not the “conquering” language that regards the covenant. That is merely a facet of the “anti” part of the title Antichrist. It’s one of the ways in which he mimics the real Christ. The part to look at re: the covenant is the bow imagery. And it doesn’t have anything to do with being arrowless. It’s just imagery to depict a covenant is in place.

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