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    • #12365
      Watchman35
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      Saturday at the grocery store, I found more and more shelves being empty.  This triggered a thought in my mind: Just how bad will our Lord allow things to get before He comes to rescue us?  The thought of dying physically or being removed from this earth actually stirs hope in my heart, as being done with this fallen world is something I long for.  However, if I am being completely honest, it’s the getting from point A (where we are today) to point B (Abba’s house in the Bridal Chamber with our Bridegroom) that causes me to battle against fear.

      I feel like I have had enough suffering for more than a lifetime, and the prospect of enduring more discourages my soul in ways hard to commnicate.  I know we have bothers and sisters in Christ around the world who this very day are suffering unspeakable persecution.  The Church in China, driven underground by a godless, brutal, totalitarian Christ-hating government.  Our brothers and sisters in parts of Africa who are being brutally murdered for their faith by God-haters.  And I am quite sure there is a ton of other things going on that I am absolutely clueless about, where followers of Jesus are suffering.

      With all that awareness and no desire to minimize it in any way, I still cannot help but wonder from a personal perspective, how bad this is going to be allowed by God to get here in America.  Will I have to watch my wife and daughter suffer?  Will we be without food?  Will “normal life” as we have known it be completely obliterated?  I know God’s judgment on America is fully justified.  That is quite obvious.  Yet, for the sake of the righteous remnant (righteous only in the imputed righteousness of Christ and through nothing of our own righteousness), I am asking Him to spare us and rescue us before things get really bad.

      Would be interested in anyone else’s scripturally based thoughts on how bad you think this might get before the dead in Christ rise and we who are alive and remain are caught up to be with the Lord in the air.

      :feedback

       

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    • #12367
      Geri7
      Participant

      Yep, shocked the church is still here to witness this type of chaos in a free sovereign  country.  Unfortunately, its going to get worse because one of my banks that prides themselves as being the “friendliest bank in town” just slipped their new over the top fees in a letter … effective April 1st.

      Excessive withdrawal Fees inside as well as ATM withdrawal Fees – this would also include closing your checking or savings accounts!

      Dormant Account Monthly Fee – includes must deposit money monthly or else this applies

      Paper Statement Fee – because they want to save the trees and want you to enroll in electronic statements

      Monthly service charge for maintaining your account and must have a balance of $3,000 or more

      New Check Fee

      and effective today (because of the virus) we need to schedule an appointment in order to go inside their bank.  I’m sure they are screening the calls and going to ask “the why” and if you dare say “to close my checking account” they will say  “sorry we are all booked up .. we will have to put your name on our waiting list”. :mail:

      I was just reading an article yesterday … because of this virus MANY people are going to lose their jobs so this bank is all set and ready for it.  No mercy for the people.

      I’m amazed out of all the generations … the Lord thinks we are tough enough to be here to live out the remaining final days.  I know my grandparents and even my parents wouldn’t have been able to put up with what we are seeing.  I believe they grew up in the best time period where the American dream occurred – products made in America and rarely broke down.

      Perhaps our crown(s) will have a few extra gem stones than theirs for enduring? ;-)

       

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      • #12368
        Watchman35
        Participant

        Not to make light of what is going on…but where’s George Bailey when you need him?  I’m pretty sure we are going to find many more Mr. Potter’s than ol’ George’s in the banking industry when this whole house of cards collapses.  It’s a wonderful life, alright, just not here in this fallen, Christ-hating world.  Beam us up, Abba!!!  Maranatha!!!

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      • #12374
        Todd Tomlinson
        Participant

        My sister went to her credit union to take out cash and was told that the limit you can withdraw is $200 per day as the CU is short on cash.   History repeats itself?

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      • #12380
        Geri7
        Participant

        Yep, I just experienced the same here with the other bank … was using their outside ATM machine – wanted $300 and the machine said “I reached my max” and didn’t process anything.  I’m like whaaat?  Since that bank has most of my money I was totally confused about being refused of access to MY money!  I left my suv at that machine and walked over to the drive thru teller (thankfully there wasn’t any cars at the time) and was talking to the teller thru their speaker because they refused to open their bank doors since I don’t have a scheduled “appointment”.  I was told $200 is the limit for ATM withdrawals per day with the use of the card. :-(     So he manually processed $300 for me but I had to fill out a paper withdrawal slip.  While completing … their pen runs out of ink … oh its very cold/windy and snowing!!! :-(    Then he couldn’t print out a slip to tell me what my remaining balance is in my checking account.  I had to use the ATM and press balance inquiry to get a print out.  Then I headed back over to the other bank with the crazy fees and deposited the money at the drive thru.  Then I parked and went into their little lobby room where the ATM machine is to get a balance print out.  I noticed thru the locked doors the workers were inside the bank with no customers and standing around “talking”.  There were 2 customers standing outside and they had appointments for 10:00 a.m. and 10:30 a.m. and the bank refused to see them until then.  They eventually went back to their car to wait another hour because its too cold outside.  I then headed to the Post Office.  Their sign says everyone must stand 6 feet away if standing in line “to respect another person’s breathing space”.  I purchased stamps because I wasn’t sure if they would suddenly close their doors next.  Then I headed over to the grocery store … the place is worse than ever with the missing food and paper products.  I was talking to one of the workers … she was using a hand scanner and I said is that how you order supplies?  She said yes.  I said there is so many empty shelves today … must have been chaotic over the weekend.  She said she places orders daily – ordered 600 items and only received half the order.  Everything is backlogged at the warehouses in Massachusetts.  I noticed the bakery seems to have food … each bagel, donut, muffin were individually wrapped in clear cellophane bags with twist ties.   I noticed the courtesy desk, which isn’t processing any returns, rain checks, etc., now has plastic shields installed at their counter (kind of like you see at the bank teller booths).  There is also a sign saying everyone needs to stay 6 feet apart while waiting in the check-out line.  The end of the line for me was clear across the store in the fish dept and I just wanted to keel over while waiting. :-(   I was praying I wouldn’t pass out because I’m sure they would have panicked thinking I had the virus. B-)

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      • #12564
        chondra
        Participant

        Seems “they” want us to get us to no personal contact of any kind.

        Social distancing (commies are calling for this to be more permanent), no physical contact with business = no immediate answers of fixes.

        A lot like online business do today, email only, no personal interactions.

        Social media (YT, Gaggle, Twit, FB, ect), where we have no personal contact and their decisions are LAW, even when illegal (unconstitutional).

        Some states (blue) are calling for arrests where people gather more than 10, even your own home.

        Commies are chastising POTUS for WANTING to reopen America by Easter. Just the idea of it has democrats and the wicked shaking their fingers. The news drugs curing Kung Flu has the very same people angry.

        Really appears they were wanting to keep “never let a good crisis go to waste”, lock downs going indefinitely, using the virus as the means.

        Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. Isaiah 26:20

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    • #12369
      Geri7
      Participant

      Yep, that old classic movie came to my mind too. :good:

      Well, after checking a few other banks … they all pretty much closed their lobby and its by appointment only for them to unlock their doors.  So the only way to get around these new fees … what I will have to do is sign up for wireless paper statements, and then deposit a few dollars using their drive thru to keep the checking account from going into “dormant” status. B-)

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      • #12371
        Watchman35
        Participant

        The Mr. Potters of this world are fixin’ to have a whole lot of dormant accounts pdq (pretty darn quick).  Then they can charge away on added fees to their hearts’ content.  We will have relocated and opened a new account at Trinity Savings.  :yahoo:

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      • #12372
        Geri7
        Participant

        :mdrmdr: :mdrmdr:   “Trinity Savings”  I love it! :good:

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    • #12373
      Geri7
      Participant

      Here is an encouraging article

      Is Coronavirus Connected to Bible Prophecy? – By Todd Hampson
      Published on: March 22, 2020 

      I have lived through several impactful—even game-changing—historical events which all occurred within 1 year. I worked in DC on 9/11, during the DC sniper murders, and during the DC anthrax mail attacks. That condensed time period was a pivotal moment in our nation’s history. Things were never the same. Our Gen-Z population doesn’t know what it was like before 9/11, just as my Gen-X generation doesn’t know what it was like before the culture-shaking events of the 1960’s.

      After 9/11, people filled churches again—but only for a time. As life returned to normal, so did the cultural default position. In fact, it has worsened. In the West—including in America—there has been a steady decline of belief in the Bible or the God of the Bible. The great falling away predicted in Scripture continues and escalates. If trends continue, the next generation of leaders and decision makers will be “nones.” “Nones” are those who do not identify with any religious affiliation or belief system. Like most of Europe, it will be wholly secular—which IS a belief system in itself, but I digress.

      As more and more people fall away from true, Biblical Christianity—so too will they fall away from its principles, wisdom, sound-logic, and blessings. There’s no doubt that our country has been blessed so tremendously because it was founded on Biblical principles (and because we have blessed the nation of Israel [Genesis 12:3]). I’m not saying our country is perfect by any means, but to the degree that we have followed God’s ways in our culture—we have also experienced God’s blessing and protection.

      Fast-Forward to 2020. The world is on lock-down. The impending tidal wave of COVID-19 has not fully hit the US just yet, but the daily breaking news from our president (and other leaders) both reassures people with a bit more clarity—and frightens people as the reality of the pandemic sinks in.

      It’s not very deadly—although all of us know people in the most vulnerable demographic, and we are concerned for their wellbeing. COVID-19 is not even that tough to have as a sickness for most people who are struck with it (as compared with frightening diseases such as Ebola). But the uncertainty surrounding the virus, and the speed with which it spreads, has sent people’s emotions, sense of security, and the stock market into a tailspin.

      How is this related to Bible Prophecy?

      So, what does this mean for us? Is this related to end-time events? Will it pass? Should we store up toilet paper, cleaning supplies, flu medicine, and hunker down in fear? What voices should we listen to? How seriously should we take the advice given by national and local leaders? How should the Church respond?

      First, to address the elephant in the room as it relates to end-time prophecy. We’re not in the tribulation period. Scripture is clear that the rapture will occur first. That’s not to say things won’t get tough prior to the rapture. In fact, Jesus taught in the Olivet Discourse (Matthew 24, Luke 21, Mark 13) that there would be birth pains leading up to (and ultimately into) the tribulation period. Also, THE tribulation is different from tribulation in general. Jesus told us in no uncertain terms that we would have tribulation in this world (John 16:33). But, the judgments in the tribulation period will be progressively worse than anything the world has ever experienced.

      I believe what we are witnessing with COVID-19 is part of the birth pains Jesus talked about in the Olivet Discourse (referenced above). In fact, I think it is a major birth pain; as is the locust plague that is ravaging Africa and the Mideast; as is the large number of social uprisings in countries around the world; as is the increase in earthquake activity; as were the record-breaking Australian wild fires; as is… you get the picture. Birth pains increase in frequency and intensity, and they only increase until the moment of delivery.

      This particular birth pain happens to be one that the entire world is feeling. Again, increased intensity. It’s also a birth pain that has shaken all earthly things. Sports, financial markets, distractions, hobbies, concerts, you name it—have all been shut down. Those things aren’t bad in themselves, but it’s as if God is removing any distractions for a moment in history to plead with the world again, ‘Look up! Look to me! This world is temporary. Think about eternal things. I love you. I died for you. Please don’t ignore me. Turn to me now while there is time.’

      I should also add that this is a pebble in the ocean compared to a yet-future global event that will rock the world to its core. If one rapidly spreading virus can cause this type of global disruption, can you imagine what the rapture will do when tens of millions are removed from the world in an instant? That singular event will set all the end-time events of John’s Revelation into motion. There have been condensed periods of major supernatural events in the past—creation, the exodus, and the events surrounding the first coming of Jesus culminating with the resurrection. Now, after roughly 2,000 years, we await another period of immense supernatural events which will begin with the rapture.

      Were it not for the hundreds of major prophecies that have already been fulfilled—including the rebirth of Israel and recent developments in Syria—this notion would be laughable. But I believe it will literally happen. Scripture is clear.

       

      What should we do now?

      Here are a few things.

      First, we should not live in fear. God is still in control. He’s in control of the world, and in control of your life. He didn’t cause COVID-19, but he allowed it. There is a paradox inherent in this discussion. God is sovereign, yet mankind still has free will. God has told history in advance about where this is all headed, yet our freewill and the nature of the fallen world transpire in chronological fashion. Faith is required. Gods’ promises are true, prophecy is real, world events are not random, this is all headed somewhere. Do not fear. Look up!

      Second, we should look for new ways to leverage this moment to turn people to Christ. It may look different than 2 weeks ago. The truths of Bible prophecy are beginning to have meaning to a broader audience as the whole world senses these birth pains. Even the secular voices are becoming progressively more apocalyptic. The condition of the world is the elephant in the room. We need to be bold enough to talk about it from a Biblical (i.e., accurate) perspective. Along with that, we should love others and meet needs at a time when most are fearful and need some encouragement.

      Third, we should be responsible. Though we should not fear, we should heed wise advice and take the recommended precautions seriously. It’s a chance for us to love our neighbor as our self. This pandemic forces us to get our eyes off of our own needs and onto the needs of others. During the worst moments of the initial outbreak, Chinese Christians from the underground church served victims of COVID-19 with grace, joy, and love. Because of such acts, the underground church in China continues to explode. What the enemy meant for evil, was turned to be used for good. The political division in our own country has even (momentarily) subsided a bit. Much like after 9/11, our country is (at least somewhat) joining together as one. I believe this will end once the major threat of COVID-19 has passed. Then (I believe) it will be globalists vs. nationalists at an even greater level.

      Fourth, let this time of uncertainty draw you closer to God. If I can be completely real for a moment, the Lord has shown me several things the past few weeks that I need to work on. Nothing earth-shaking, but areas of my thinking and reactions that God has brought to the surface so I can turn them over to him. The closer I get to the Lord, the more I realize how much I need him every day.

      These are serious times—and we need to be ready. We need to be ready for whatever lies ahead—and we need to do so with courage, boldness, joy, and hope in a soon-coming King. Everything else fades away in the bright light of His promised future return. We don’t know the day or hour, but all Biblical indicators are that we could very well be the generation that experiences the rapture. What a privilege—and a burden—to be alive at this time in history. Are you ready? Why not put your trust in the only thing that is really stable?

      – Fair Use –

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    • #12385
      Tammie
      Participant

      Trader Joe’s has a “process” – only 30 people at a time in the store, you stand in line, distancing yourself from each other. When a person comes out of the store, an employee wipes down the cart, you go in, check out if lined with tape on the ground, 6ft apart, you go out, starts over…..it actually works very smoothly.
      My state, Virginia, just closed all schools for the year, all recreational gatherings, all restaurants must be drive thru, delivery, take-out only. Limited number of persons in grocery stores. All stores closed, except, grocery, pharmacy, hardware.
      :prayer-hands:

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    • #12394
      DonnaDonna
      Moderator

      As Geri’s article says:  ~~ “The truths of Bible prophecy are beginning to have meaning to a broader audience as the whole world senses these birth pains.”

      From my friend Angela, and I agree  ~ ~ these are more than the ‘beginning’ of sorrows, it seems: ~

      ~Who would have believed this just a few weeks ago ~~ . . This is all ‘permitted’ by our God, for He IS speaking to the entire globe these days: ~ ~ ~ ~ and, just like He did with the plagues of Egypt, God has taken away everything we worship.

      As though God is saying to the world:   “you want to worship athletes, I will shut down the stadiums. You want to worship musicians, I will shut down Civic Centers. You want to worship actors, I will shut down theaters. You want to worship money, I will shut down the economy and collapse the stock market. You don’t want to go to church and worship Me, I will make it where you can’t go to church”

      our God of Mercy still announces:  ~ ~ ~ “If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.”

      Maybe we don’t need a vaccine, Maybe we need to take this time of isolation from the distractions of the world and have a personal revival where we focus on the ONLY thing in the world that really matters. Jesus.. . ”

       

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    • #12395
      Leaving Soon
      Participant

      Watchman35,

      I’ve been wondering the same thing for around 10 years now.

      Let’s hope the Rapture happens this Spring !!!

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    • #12403
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Well said one and all!  Seems that this mild form of persecution doesn’t discriminate.  Across all lines, barriers, nations and ages.  I’ve been expecting some sort of persecution to hit the U.S.  But it seems as Donna has rightly pointed out, God’s last call of salvation to the world at large.

      Indeed things could get a little worse should stock markets continue to crash!  Again the word God has put in my spirit is:  Be still and know that I am Lord!  His seed shall not beg bread.  Though we stand and find no way to go, the waters of evil shall be parted.  Our vision should not be horizontal or looking to the world, but rather vertical for our redemption draweth nigh!

      Secondly, all the more as we see our day approaching, that we should invest more time in our prayer closets.  In order to better receive comfort and guidance, IMHO!

      God is not looking to create situational fear, but rather a godly fear/respect for Him!

      Indeed  as for us, the greater our troubles the more we cry out to God!  As the fires of our trials continue either to remove dross, or to wake a sleeping Church.  All the more I am convinced that this is indeed being directed by the hand of God.

      Lastly, for those who would hear what the Spirit is speaking to the Church, this indeed may be our advance warning.  Short of being told the exact day of the Rapture, these increasing sorrows only confirm the nearness of His return!

      In the end the question isn’t how bad will things get!  But rather how quickly until we hear that trumpet blast!  Let not your hearts be troubled, for lo I am with you till the end of the age!

      TR

       

       

       

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    • #12420
      2ndcoming
      Participant

      I believe this virus shall go rampant for few more months, and God shall intervene and brings everything back into normal state. For believers, we view it as miracle and praise God. But for unbelievers, they shall go on and live their daily life as if God doesn’t exist. This could be one of the few signs God gives the world before He calls the church home. God gives one last miracle and tries to turn the world’s attention to Him.

      Concerning if this virus comes from God, my answer is no. I believe this virus comes from God’s enemy Satan and his accomplice.

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    • #12423
      Geri7
      Participant

      I’m not sure if things will ever go back to “normal” because even if the virus calms down, many would have lost their jobs and perhaps if stores do reopen … they could be setting up their place with A.I. robots.  I’m leaning towards the G/M scenario is brewing while the virus is in full force and America won’t be able to come to Israel’s aid …

      Iranian general in charge of arms for Hizballah dies of coronavirus 
      Mar 23, 2020 @ 7:25
      DEBKA

      General Hossain Assadollahi of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards has died of the coronavirus.  He was in charge of the supply of missiles to Hizbollah in Syria and of the project for upgrading their arsenal to high precision.  DEBKA file sources also report that while the authorities in Tehran admit to an Iranian death toll of 1,685, the number of fatalities is unofficially estimated as closer to 9,000.

      ————————-

      From Thomas Maples

      “I am still wondering at what point they’re just going to say “well, if we’re going to die, let’s do it in jihad so we can all go to heaven”.

      From Benjamin Searle

      “And not just Hezbollah, but broadly … the world economy is tanking, Russia seems to have lost out somewhat against Saudi Arabia in this oil spat, and sooner or later, nations will have decide whether to act in the global interest , or their own.  Conditions are ripe.”

      – Fair Use –

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      • #12427
        2ndcoming
        Participant

        Remember the SARS in 2003 summer? It was gone, disappear, without a trace. There was no vaccine, and the test kit just came out.  But it was gone in the summer. God can do miracle. We only need to believe.

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      • #12428
        Geri7
        Participant

        Actually I don’t remember SARS … was it global?

        I do remember the Ebola virus in 2014 and saw that quickly die.

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      • #12448
        Tammie
        Participant

        SARS 1 was not a global pandemic, never reached this stage.

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      • #12438
        MyWhiteStone
        Moderator

        You wrote, Geri, “I’m leaning towards the G/M scenario is brewing…”  I first thought, “General Motors???” (I hate to admit that except it’s kinda funny/weird, no?)  GM isn’t found in Weak’s Concordance either, by the way.

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      • #12441
        Geri7
        Participant

        LOL

        Actually my Weak’s Concordance states G/M started off with the Coffee Bike

        Then by the 20th century people wised up and there were more tea drinkers so the street vendors opted for more horse power because they had more grounds to cover  to find a diehard cup of Joe bean drinker. B-)

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    • #12443
      Watchman35
      Participant

      Weak’s Concordance…lol.  I was a little slow on the uptake.  My first thought was, “Oh, there must be another widely used concordance besides Strong’s…”  Of course, it is 4:17 AM :mdrmdr:

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      • #12446
        Geri7
        Participant

        Yep … I carry 2 helpful reference books for additional clarification because they seem to be very clear and concise … the “Old’s” Bible Dictionary and the “Weak’s” Concordance . :good:   They are both in-sync that heaven will only be a peaceful place with no violence whatsoever.  They both cross referenced this example as  being “a-trout-cious” behavior and not fitting in the Kingdom … “there will be no battering of the fish!” :whistle:   Neither will there be “flounder-ing” seen in the shallow off shore waters.    I found the “so-fish-ticated” Old’s and Weak’s reference sources to be so concise, it leaves you no time to “mullet – over” anything.  Hey, I’m always on the look out for that 3rd reference book to complete the collection … if you have one, pulease  let “minnow”. B-)

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    • #12445
      David
      Participant

      Dear Watchman 35. I have pondered your original request for scripturally based thoughts on how bad will things get before we are raptured. I think Todd Hampson’s article posted by Geri 7 was awesome and really captivates where we are right now on the prophetic timetable.

      Do you mind if, instead of adding to these great posts, I address your inner turmoil as a Christian in still struggling and suffering here in this fallen, fractured and sin soaked world with biblically based thoughts.

      These thoughts, struggles and fears that you are having are common to all believers throughout the ages, old testament saints and the bride of Christ alike. I have Christian family members who are saying the same things in that they have just simple had enough and wish that the Lord would take them. I don’t think for one second that they were contemplating suicide but were in the same place as Elijah in this passage of scripture :-

      1 Kings 19 New King James Version (NKJV)Elijah Escapes from Jezebel
      19 And Ahab told Jezebel all that Elijah had done, also how he had executed all the prophets with the sword. 2 Then Jezebel sent a messenger to Elijah, saying, “So let the gods do to me, and more also, if I do not make your life as the life of one of them by tomorrow about this time.” 3 And when he saw that, he arose and ran for his life, and went to Beersheba, which belongs to Judah, and left his servant there.

      4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a [a]broom tree. And he prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, Lord, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”

      5 Then as he lay and slept under a broom tree, suddenly an [b]angel touched him, and said to him, “Arise and eat.” 6 Then he looked, and there by his head was a cake baked on [c]coals, and a jar of water. So he ate and drank, and lay down again. 7 And the [d]angel of the Lord came back the second time, and touched him, and said, “Arise and eat, because the journey is too great for you.” 8 So he arose, and ate and drank; and he went in the strength of that food forty days and forty nights as far as Horeb, the mountain of God.

      It seems that one moment Elijah was strong and with the Holy Spirit anointing was able to confront and defeat the enemy and the next moment he was cowering in the wilderness pleading for the Lord to take him home. I think that this spiritual wavering back and forth is normal. It certainly is with me. One minute I am an Israel the next a Jacob, one minute I am a Cephas the next a Simon !

      So my dear Brother here is the takeaway :

      John 16 New King James Version (NKJV)

      19 Now Jesus knew that they desired to ask Him, and He said to them, “Are you inquiring among yourselves about what I said, ‘A little while, and you will not see Me; and again a little while, and you will see Me’? 20 Most assuredly, I say to you that you will weep and lament, but the world will rejoice; and you will be sorrowful, but your sorrow will be turned into joy. 21 A woman, when she is in labor, has sorrow because her hour has come; but as soon as she has given birth to the child, she no longer remembers the anguish, for joy that a human being has been born into the world. 22 Therefore you now have sorrow; but I will see you again and your heart will rejoice, and your joy no one will take from you.

      23 “And in that day you will ask Me nothing. Most assuredly, I say to you, whatever you ask the Father in My name He will give you. 24 Until now you have asked nothing in My name. Ask, and you will receive, that your joy may be full.

      Psalm 119:105 King James Version (KJV) Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.

      Maranatha

      David

       

       

       

       

       

       

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      • #12447
        Geri7
        Participant

        Great encouragement, David. :good:

        Then when Elijah’s ministry was complete he was taken up to heaven in a chariot and his cloak was left behind for Elisha.

        The church will be doing the same … leaving our earthly things behind and passing the baton back to Elijah and perhaps Moses(?) … soon very soon! :yahoo:

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        I thought my witnessing days were over … since the virus outbreak everyone is standoffish let alone won’t take any paper Bible Tract.  But this morning … I was able to witness to the plow guy since we got MORE snow late last night.  As I was shoveling late last night saying why Lord … why more snow?  Then I got to thinking tomorrow morning would be a great opportunity to finally share the Gospel with the plow guy.   I’ve had a burden for him for over a year.  He is related to my former next door neighbor and my parents witnessed to his brother and sister-in-law years ago.  Well I made sure to be out side bright and early and it was just him and me while he shoveled my front sidewalk.  I started off by saying these are crazy times, eh?  He laughed and agreed.  Then I said while everyone is fearing dying we need not fear, if we have Jesus as our personal Lord and Savior.  Then I shared the Gospel message.  He listened and kept yes, yes-ing me and took the Bible Tract.  I would appreciate you prayer warriors if you can remember him in your prayers today …  his name is Paul … and my former neighbors are Diane and John. :thankyou

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      • #12480
        David
        Participant

        Wow Geri. I also thought that my witnessing days were over. I go out twice a week to various towns & cities in the Southwest of England with a handful of gospel tracts and engage people in conversations. I am of course really saddened that my ministry is now on hold but I am encouraged by your witness to Paul and the fact that God can still use me in ways that I have not even considered yet.

        There is an important reason that the church is still here :

        2 Peter 3:9  The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.

        Geri’s experience has prompted me to open a separate thread about evangelising, which although at the present time seems like a bad idea due to the social restrictions, I am nevertheless going to post it now because of its relationship to end times bible prophecy and the mounting fear out there.

        David

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      • #12491
        Geri7
        Participant

        Yep, looks like there are a few stragglers out there we need to reach before the church door closes.   Can you imagine how grateful that last sheep will feel in knowing the Great Shepherd was waiting patiently for his/her repentance prayer?  I can just see it now, if we have assigned seats at the banquet feast, that person might be sitting right besides Jesus as He announces this was my last wayward sheep I was waiting for.  Then all the teasing and jokes begin…. :calvin

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    • #12462
      tenderreed
      Participant

      We’ll pass the torch at the Rapture, with a high five!

      TR

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    • #12467
      Arthur
      Participant

      May Paul come to salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. :prayer-hands:

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    • #12468
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Amen!

      Things seemingly are quiet again, or so it seems to me.  The worlds hysteria notwithstanding.

      Wonder what God’s next move is going to be?!   Or how else is He going to confirm that our time here is short?!  I expect Him to keep us informed, at least with regards to how much more time we have here.

      Any thoughts?

      TR

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      • #12474
        Geri7
        Participant

        I was watching a few youtubes today … reading the comment section … quite a few people sense an April home-going.  I’m hoping and praying they are right.

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    • #12472
      Geri7
      Participant

      Nosey Nina here

      Check out the weird plague pattern that seemed to hit on political years in the 21st Century … coincidence?

      SARS – 2004        Election Year George W. Bush

      AVIAN – 2008      Election Year Obama

      SWINE – 2010      Republicans regained control of the House while the Democrats remained in control of the Senate

      MERS -2012          Election Year Obama

      EBOLA – 2014       Republicans retained control of the House of Representatives and won control of the Senate

      ZIKA – 2016             Election Year Trump

      EBOLA – 2018         The election was widely characterized as a “blue wave” election in the U.S. House and in the gubernatorial races to an extent, but not in the U.S. Senate, where Democrats suffered a net loss of two seats

      CORONA -2020       Election Year ….

       

       

       

       

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      • #12483
        Watchman35
        Participant

        Interesting pattern.  Appears someone or Someone is “sick” of our elections…:mdrmdr:

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    • #12475
      Geri7
      Participant

      Also curious … in the midst of the Coronavirus …

      –  The IRS extended the filing deadline for Tax Day to July 15th

      – The Real ID drivers license deadline gets pushed back as well due to the virus

      –  However … the Census 2020 survey must be completed by April 1st and wasn’t extended?   What is so important that they need to know our names, date of birth, nationality, who lives with us, our where-a-bouts & phone number? B-)

       

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      • #12538
        Geri7
        Participant

        Hmmm … will the Census 2020 Survey be used for this …

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    • #12499
      Geri7
      Participant

      Good grief … I just got this email from the local vet‘s office:

      Effective March 25, 2020:

      We are NOT allowing anyone in the building other than staff and clients here for  EUTHANASIA. :wacko:  

      We are continuing to offer our concierge service for outpatient appointments, in patient drop off/pickup, medication pickup, and making payments (payments can also be made by phone). Please call ahead and we will make arrangements. When you arrive in the parking lot please call us and we will come out to you.

      Thank you for your understanding and cooperation during this hard time.

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    • #12501
      Yohanan
      Moderator

      Going back a few posts, I agree that things will go back to normal, albeit a new normal. Humans are very adaptable and this current scenario will not be the undoing of mankind. Those who went through either of the World Wars would have said the same, “nothing will ever be the same”, and they were right, thought their long term thinking was not. A new normal set in. Life will go back to normal here, too, and the godless will continue being godless. The Lord allows pestilence to draw HIS people back to Him. I think Donna’s post was spot on. Those who profess to be Christians have become rather loose in their walk with the Lord and He is calling them back to Him. I’m sure there are other things that will come to fruition due to this crisis, but Donna’s words speak very loudly.

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      • #12513
        Geri7
        Participant

        Good point … a new normal way of living will set in when the dust finally settles.

        But in the meantime … just a heads up … if you do your taxes the old fashion way (paper snail trail), I’m advising to get them done ASAP and not wait until the extended IRS July deadline.  Oh and the state and homestead tax forms are still due by April 15th (at least Vermont its still that way).

        I went to the post office on Monday to stock up on more stamps and asked the worker if the post office will be closing or shortening their hours … she said no.

        Now I see this article … the post office might close in June if this virus continues.  If it does … it will affect getting prescription drugs and the presidential election will be postponed as well.  I’m hoping we are long gone before June.

         

        Regular mail service could be shut down as early as June, two US representatives said, and the effects could be disastrous.

        Critical supplies — like the more than 1 billion shipments of prescription drugs delivered by the Postal Service last year — could be stuck, mail voting in the November election could be stymied, and hundreds of thousands of postal employees could be out of work, Reps. Carolyn Maloney and Gerry Connolly said in a statement on Monday.

        “Based on a number of briefings and warnings this week about a critical fall-off in mail across the country, it has become clear that the Postal Service will not survive the summer without immediate help from Congress and the White House,” Maloney and Connolly said.

        “Every community in America relies on the Postal Service to deliver vital goods and services, including life-saving medications. The Postal Service needs America’s help, and we must answer this call.”

        The duo also introduced a bill that would provide $25 billion in emergency funding for the Postal Service while eliminating the agency’s debt and requiring it to prioritize medical deliveries.

        – Fair Use –

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        After mailing my tax forms I quickly headed over to the grocery store because I’m a sucker for drama. B-)    Blue painters tape is marked all over the floors directing people where they need to stand.  I joked with the guy at the courtesy desk behind the bullet proof glass barrier.  I said looks like you’re ready for all out anarchy and the guns.  He laughed and said “we are”.  They even put the glass barriers around each of the cashier stations. :wacko:    As I walked thru the store, it was pitiful with the empty shelves almost in every aisle.  The only thing well stocked now are the magazines and greeting cards.  Nobody is buying those items and if the post office does shut down those cards will be of no use anyway.   I got next to the last dish detergent, a box of dog treats (3 boxes were left) and then headed over to the deli to get some cold cuts.  The blue lines were in place and signs everywhere “do not come any closer” and “do not touch the glass counter”.  You had to shout out your order for the deli worker to hear you.  I was wondering how they would give you the meat.  When she finished … I said are you going to throw it to me?  She laughed and placed the items on the counter and then said I can come around this way … stay within the blue lines. :wacko:

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