Coronavirus Talk 22

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    • #84759
      Yohanan
      Moderator

      Carry on!

      Previous thread here.

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    • #84761
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Dec 6th the last day of Hannukah!

      TR

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    • #84763
      Arthur
      Participant

      Will Coronavirus talk 22 even make it to 2022? Hopefully not. ;-)

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    • #84764
      Yohanan
      Moderator

      I hope not, Arthur! God is going to do what He sees best but let’s all pray we are celebrating the new year together in Glory!

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    • #84765
      Todd Tomlinson
      Participant

      Well — here we go again ….   Biden files emergency order to restore mandate on 11/23.

      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/biden-administration-seeks-emergency-order-proceed-workplace-vaccine-mandate-n1284439

       

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      • #84787
        Arthur
        Participant

        They are desperate to get everyone digitally integrated. Their master must be displeased with their lack of progress.

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    • #84766
      Heidi
      Participant

      I spoke again to my colleague who won’t be taking the shot and will also  be on an unpaid leave. She brought up the news about our colleague who passed away suddenly. she also said another colleague’s sister died from  heart problems.  I was upset to hear  that because that colleague is so  sweet and I know she loves her siblings.

      She  told me I asked her  the following questions:

      Was your sister healthy? Answer: yes

      Do you have a history of heart disease in your family? Answer: no

      Has your sister  had any checkups recently?  Was she Ok? Answer: yes

      Did she  get  the vax? Answer: yes.

      She said  people are so brainwashed and they are not making the connection to the  vax.  It could have been hard for the other colleague to be questioned like that, but like my colleague who questioned her said, people need  to wake up and see the connection.

      I was wondering why the  other colleague had not been in touch with me for a while. She’s  always in touch and likes me. I did  tell her months ago that the  vax is  not good.

      My manager told me to get in touch with a client who signed up for a class and  has not showed up for 2 weeks.

      I called her. She said she is sorry but she got the second shot and  is having headaches. She also  sounded out of breath.

      I like  her and was scared for her. I did not know what to say. I asked her  if  her husband  is with her. She said I am alone and  on the road. I asked her if she  can call her  doctor.  She said the  clinic is closed now. She  is going to the drug store to get some advil. I think she said that she thinks it is stress……………..I thought she said that at one point.

      I hung  up the phone feeling so disturbed and wondering if I let her down. I prayed for her.

      You know, always in the back of my mind, I was  still  wondering if all the world got it right  and we are just listening to some  conspiracy theorist about this vax. today, all doubts are gone.

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    • #84767
      Heidi
      Participant

      I don’t  know if this is the  same  link I posted a few weeks ago. I found this on the comment section of NTEB website.

      Jobs that don’t require the shot.

      https://novaxmandate.org/

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    • #84785
      Wendy
      Participant

      This is happening in Australia now, in the Northern Territory where most of the indigenous people reside. “Australia begins covid ETHNIC CLEANSING with military roundups of indigenous people… junk science “sewage” testing used to imprison entire communities at gunpoint.” Sewage testing has actually been happening all over Australia since last year.

      https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-11-23-australia-begins-covid-ethnic-cleansing-with-military-roundups-of-indigenous-people.html

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    • #84791
      Arthur
      Participant

      Those poor aboriginals. :( I pray this isn’t true. :prayer-hands:

      Natural News is prone to hyberbole and over exaggeration, however. I wouldn’t automatically believe everything they put out. They’ll make outrageous claims or predictions and when they are proven false or they don’t come to pass, they’ll just move on to the next outrageous claim or prediction.

      So, I am not saying this story is false. Just that Natural News does not have a good track record. IMHO, I really believe they are disinformation agents.

       

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    • #84806
      Heidi
      Participant

      Thank you Arthur

      Needed to have a confirmation of that since I have been scared about so much stuff I read on that website. I am trying to avoid them

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    • #84828
      Heidi
      Participant

      Terry James mentioned how a lot of theses gloom and doom websites are selling survival stuff

      He wasn’t talking about natural news. He didn’t give specific names

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      • #84841
        Arthur
        Participant

        Yes, a lot of the Christian ones (or Christians in name only for some of them) are mid, pre-wrath or post tribbers. Many offer a wide variety of survival things. They certainly capitalize $$$ on the doom and gloom. (ie Jim Bakker)

        Natural News (who seems to be a New Ager who uses Christian lingo) certainly sells a lot of merchandise on their many websites and like to push the doom and gloom get prepared because the world is falling apart to get people to buy buy buy.

        I guess the moral of the story is don’t necessarily believe everything you see on websites like Natural News.

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    • #84835
      KolleenWStone
      Moderator

      Where Natural News got it from:

      These victims are being forcibly relocated to the Howard Springs quarantine camp in Darwin, Australia. Michael Gunner, the territory chief, admits to the military kidnapping and forced relocation of Australian indigenous people….,

      From Gunner’s Facebook post: (hope this works)

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    • #84840
      Arthur
      Participant

      Certainly part of the story could be true. There could be internment camps. Natural News also claimed there were forced vaxxxinations which may be another wild exaggeration on their part.

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    • #84884
      Arthur
      Participant

      Being a bear of small brain, I would like the medical professionals and scientists or anyone in the know to comment on this article:

      https://canadafreepress.com/article/american-heart-association-journal-publishes-data-that-uk-medical-doctor-claims-are-proof-that-covid-19-vaccines-are-murder

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      • #84914
        churchgal
        Participant

        I read the article and it is interesting. I am not familiar with the Puls cardiac ACS score but of course there are things that are specialty specific that aren’t as well known. It appears that they check a few markers that are considered pro inflammatory and related to the inside part of our blood vessels called the endothelium. I will look further into the test and the markers listed….the numbers that they claim says that the markers are elevated in persons post vax and lead to a higher risk for an acute cardiac event. It would correlate to the increased number of heart attacks that I have seen recently and to the reports of endocarditis in young persons. It likely has merit, thanks for the share… :good:

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        • #85096
          Arthur
          Participant

          Thank you for that. :thankyou

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    • #84885
      Arthur
      Participant

      Regarding Natural News, I most certainly could be wrong. I don’t know everything and certainly haven’t figured everything out. So take me with a grain of salt. (Or a heap!)

      It is hard to show tone or feeling over the internet. So, I hope I am not coming across as a bully. That’s not what I want to do as we are to do everything in love.

      Praying for the end of the coronafraud and more importantly for the soon return of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. :prayer-hands:

       

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    • #84899
      Yohanan
      Moderator

      I don’t think you are coming across as a bully. I’m not versed enough in Natural News but from what I’ve read they tend to be the only ones running some of these stories so that makes those stories suspect to me.

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    • #84910
      Heidi
      Participant

      This is the second email we get from HR about giving the vax to kids 5 to 11 years

      It also includes ” ask the experts” about the safety of this stuff for kids

       

      Even the people who are promoting this will wish they were never born when they meet God

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    • #84912
      Arthur
      Participant

      They are talking about giving the toxic cocktail to babies in 2022. Well, wicked Fauci is gleefully proclaiming that, anyway.

      Here is an article from Natural News, for what it’s worth. Judge for yourself but if it is true, we really gotta go soon, Heavenly Father! :prayer-hands:

       

      Jesuit-trained genocidal maniac Tony Fauci has declared that all small children and young babies will probably have “vaccines” for the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) readily available to them by Spring 2022.

      In a recent statement, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) suggested that the “first quarter” of 2022 will see injection vials specially designed for babies six months to five years old.

      Pfizer is leading the pack, reports indicate, in racing at “warp speed” to get the needles ready as soon as is non-humanly possible, though “you’ve got to do the clinical trial,” Fauci blabbed about the process.

      “Hopefully within a reasonably short period of time, likely the beginning of next year in 2022, in the first quarter of 2022, it will be available to them,” Fauci told Business Insider about the next phase of the plandemic.

      What started out as “two weeks to flatten the curve” has morphed into almost two years of getting as many needles in human arms as possible – including the arms of babies fresh out of their mothers’ wombs.

      Pfizer says it is ready to start injecting little kids with pediatric vaccine trials already underway. Moderna is still recruiting babies for its clinical trial while Johnson & Johnson (J&J) says it is experiencing “regulatory delays.”

      https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-11-24-fauci-wants-kids-babies-vaccinated-covid-spring.html

       

       

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    • #84915
      Heidi
      Participant

      How much longer before God burries them?

      Pastor JD said he wants a front line seat when the devil and the demon are judged.

      I want a front line seat to that one.

      All the health authorities, pharmaceutical companies, doctors who are promoting these things and so called medical experts

       

       

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    • #84917
      Arthur
      Participant

      Big Pharm and their wicked minions definitely have a special place reserved for them in the Lake of Fire. They better repent now or they are in for an absolutely horrific afterlife. Especially, the ones targeting small children and babies, the most innocent of all people.

      Heavenly Father, You have told us that we are to pray for our enemies so may they find salvation through our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. May they speak out about the evil being perpetuated by the Big Pharm industry, all out of greed and a lust for power. May they become workers of righteousness rather than workers of iniquity. In Jesus’ Mighty Name, Amen.

       

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    • #84954
      Heidi
      Participant

      We got an email from HR : staff are ” encouraged” to get their flu shot.

      Wonder when they will start bullying staff to get it.

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    • #84955
      Yohanan
      Moderator

      I got the flu shot the past several years and it seemed to help but won’t get it any longer because I don’t trust the system any more.

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      • #84964
        regina
        Participant

        i dont either Yohanan. yesterday i went to the hospital for a test, an appointment set months ago. there was a sign on the entry to show your vaxx passport and id. i asked if i had to be vaccinated to be seen. they said what are you here for? I showed the hospital check point guards the appointment on my cell phone. i was let in but creeped out. here are people who have been near way more people than I have been, deciding if I can be seen. i would have had less contact if i could have walked in the door and gone to the appointment site without being stopped and questioned. i had flu vax in some years, but most years not. i don’t want another vax again. :negative:

         

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    • #84956
      Heidi
      Participant

      I haven’t gotten the flu shot for years. I will never get any shots again for anything. I don’t trust them

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    • #84960
      Geri9
      Participant

      I wouldn’t bother getting the flu shot either.  I got the flu shot once in the 1990’s and was sick as a dog for 5 days straight, :wacko:

      I’m rarely sick and if I do get “the flu” (once every 10 years ?) it’s very mild and last 1 day.  So I think I will take my chances since the odds are in my favor NOT to.   B-)

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    • #84965
      Heidi
      Participant

      In the fall of 2019, my manager called me to her office. She wanted to send me to the English school to promote  the  flu shot. I thought: oh,  no. What have I done  to deserve this?

      She  said  somewhat enthusiastically: you get the flu shot, right?

      me: no!

      Her face fell. I remember  that look.

      I guess she  quickly recovered from that and still wanted to send me to do the job  instead of  another colleague. She knew how good I can interact with people at different language levels.  I had to do the presentation  to people who barely understood English to more fluent speakers and everywhere in between………..

      I can easily adjust the presentation and the way I am speaking.

      We had a PowerPoint prepared by Public Health, but it made no sense to keep  connecting the equipment in different classes for a 15 minute presentation so we got a big board and attached different material to it.

      Our heath care centre was going to give the shots to student who signed up for them after the presentation so they sent me a long list of adverse reactions. I was at my desk adding this info to my presentation when my manager came around and asked me what I was doing. When I told her she groaned: oh, no!

      I was really surprised with her reaction. Are we supposed to promote the shot and not tell the students all the possible adverse events?

      so off I go carrying my big board, entering each class and telling the students:

      the flu shot is your best defense against the flu ( in my mind, I am thinking. Yeah right! What happened to our immune system) 

      but getting the flu shot will not necessarily protect you from getting the flu (so why are we getting that thing!) 

      and then I go over all the side effects. You ought to see the look on some of the students face especially when I get to GB syndrome.

      Every time I leave a classroom, I felt more and more like an idiot.

      so what are we saying: the flu shot is your best defense, but you might still get the flu and now for the long list of adverse events

      every time I left a classroom, I was feeling more embarrassed and more like an idiot.

      Oh, no! 3 more classrooms to go to………

      I must have made the presentation for over 100 students. How many students signed up for the shot: 12 students.

      Oh, well, maybe they already got the shots at their doctor’s office or maybe I did not sound too enthusiastic…………..

       

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    • #84968
      Lee Giblin
      Participant

      In 1979 my kids Dr talked me into getting the flu shot.   10 hours later I had an Anaphylaxis reaction ( huge swelling and trouble breathing), rushed to ER, the drugs they gave me worked.   I haven’t had any vaccines other than a tetnus booster.

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      • #84978
        Yohanan
        Moderator

        You are probably getting Whooping Cough vaccine when you get your Tetanus as they seem to like mixing those.

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        • #84985
          Lee Giblin
          Participant

          LOL,  I’m old enough to have had whooping cough.  I think I was 5 years old.

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          • #84994
            Yohanan
            Moderator

            My sister had it when we were kids. I can still remember how awful she sounded!

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    • #84971
      Lee Giblin
      Participant

      Just a little PS .   I had 4 doctors tell  me not to get the Covid shot.  What happens when they “mandate” it to shop or buy.

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    • #84972
      Heidi
      Participant

      Lee, it looks like you could get a medical exemption  for the C19 shot.

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    • #85029
      Leaving Soon
      Participant
    • #85031
      regina
      Participant

      omicron movie from 1963, imagine that! on Arthur’s star thread, i just posted another thing named like the greek letter, a star that goes from very faint to very bright very fast. its tail can only be seen in uv light. omicron ceti, a falling shooting star.

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    • #85049
      Arthur
      Participant

      Omicron, eh?

      Hmmm…an anagram for omicron would be…moronic?

      Seems quite fitting. ;-)

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    • #85053
      Geri9
      Participant

      I just saw this helpful tip ….

      Some advice if your loved ones or friends, who have taken the vaxx and are experiencing – strokes/heart attacks or blood clots

       

      Chili powder and ASPIRIN for some days*》1/2 teaspoon chili powder DAILY in a glass of water 》it prevents and HEALS strokes and heart attacks.

      Aspirin is a perfect blood thinner! And it destroys bloodclots.

      Important also Magnesium and potassium (Kalium) cause by heart racing a great lack of both!!   Most doctors don’t know ANYTHING about helping the body to REALLY HEAL !!   God bless you and your grand daughter. I pray for her !! Love from Germany

      – Fair Use –

       

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    • #85055
      Geri9
      Participant

      – Fair Use –

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    • #85056
      Geri9
      Participant

      :popcorn   :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn

       

      Meanwhile over in India … Bill Gates is charged with murder for Covid-19 Vaccine death in India’s High Court – Death Penalty Sought

      – Fair Use –

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    • #85086
      Heidi
      Participant

      I can’t stand to see Gates face. I hope soon we will never see his face again. (not saying anything to you Geri, just venting about not standing to look at that face) I also wish people would stop showing that photo with him carrying a needle and a smirk on his face.

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    • #85097
      Arthur
      Participant

      So, an anagram of omicron is moronic.

      Another anagram is oncomir. It appears that the luciferians are having a little inside joke:

      An oncomir (also oncomiR) is a microRNA (miRNA) that is associated with cancer. MicroRNAs are short RNA molecules about 22 nucleotides in length. Essentially, miRNAs specifically target certain messenger RNAs (mRNAs) to prevent them from coding for a specific protein. The dysregulation of certain microRNAs (oncomirs) has been associated with specific cancer forming (oncogenic) events. Many different oncomirs have been identified in numerous types of human cancers.[1]

      Oncomirs are associated with carcinogenesis, malignant transformation, and metastasis. Some oncomir genes are oncogenes, in that overexpression of the gene leads to cancerous growth. Other oncomir genes are tumor suppressors in a normal cell, so that underexpression of the gene leads to cancerous growth.[1][2][3][4]

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oncomir

      The good news is that God will have the Last and Best Laugh.

      Psalm 2:1-6

      New King James Version

      The Messiah’s Triumph and Kingdom
      2 Why do the nations rage,
      And the people plot a vain thing?
      2 The kings of the earth set themselves,
      And the rulers take counsel together,
      Against the Lord and against His Anointed, saying,
      3 “Let us break Their bonds in pieces
      And cast away Their cords from us.”
      4 He who sits in the heavens shall laugh;
      The Lord shall hold them in derision.
      5 Then He shall speak to them in His wrath,
      And distress them in His deep displeasure:
      6 “Yet I have set My King
      On My holy hill of Zion.”

       

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    • #85119
      MyWhiteStone
      Participant

      Being that Luciferians are also reaping unbridled riches, “omicron” letters could also be rearranged to spell “morcoin.”  More Bitcoin maybe…?

       

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    • #85308
      Arthur
      Participant

      Some very valid questions.

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    • #85310
      Yohanan
      Moderator

      Very good question! The answer seems obvious.

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    • #85311
      Patricia N.
      Participant

      Sens. Cruz, Paul Blast “Astounding Authoritarian” Fauci For “I Am Science” Claim

      “Responding to Anthony Fauci again declaring that he represents science, Senators Ted Cruz and Rand Paul blasted the “hubris” of “an unelected technocrat,” warning that he has “distorted science” in order to exert “authoritarian control.”

      “Fauci appeared on CBS News’ Face The Nation, and declared that “Anybody who spins lies and threatens and all that theater that goes on with some of the investigations and the congressional committees and the Rand Pauls and all that other nonsense, that’s noise.”

      “He further claimed “if you’re attacking me, you’re really attacking science,” adding “I mean, everybody knows that.”

      “It isn’t the first time that Fauci has essentially declared that he IS science.”

      https://www.zerohedge.com/political/sens-cruz-paul-blast-astounding-authoritarian-fauci-i-am-science-claim

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    • #85313
      Arthur
      Participant

      Here comes the vaxxx tax. Well, at least in Greece.

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    • #85357
      Heidi
      Participant

      That’s what they call “Science” Arthur. You are not trusting the science.

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      • #85367
        Arthur
        Participant

        The $cience?

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    • #85358
      Heidi
      Participant

      That should be 100 euros minus whatever senior’s discount they have in Greece.

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    • #85369
      Arthur
      Participant

      William Shakespeare came to get vaccinated.

      Nurse: Which arm?

      Shakespeare: As You Like It

      Nurse: Was that painful?

      Shakespeare: Much Ado About Nothing

      Nurse: You will have to have a second jab.

      Shakespeare: Measure For Measure

      Nurse: So what do you think of the general awareness with regard to Covid?

      Shakespeare: Comedy Of Errors

      Nurse: I heard your wife Anne decided to get vaccinated in the company of her friends?

      Shakespeare: The Merry Wives of Windsor

      Nurse: Did you try convincing her?

      Shakespeare: Love’s Labour Lost

      Nurse: Wouldn’t she listen to you?

      Shakespeare: A Midsummer Night’s Dream

      Nurse: So what happened at the other vaccination centre?

      Shakespeare: The Tempest

      Nurse: But it worked out?

      Shakespeare: The Taming Of The Shrew

      Nurse: So it is okay then?

      Shakespeare: All’s Well That Ends Well

      Shakespeare: Will I have any adverse effects?

      Nurse:. Wait until The Twelfth Night

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    • #85371
      Heidi
      Participant

      I was just being silly Arthur. Just saying there is probably science behind having to get the vax if you are over 60 and if not, there is certain amount you have to pay.

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    • #85377
      Arthur
      Participant

      The Omicron scariant is extremely mild. I believe this is the beginning of the end for the coronafraud. How is New York State going to look after declaring a state of emergency over it? Other countries are locking their borders.

      I really do think they are letting it be exposed as the farce that it truly is. The fall of the fake evil nwo is coming soon and our departure sooner.

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    • #85382
      tenderreed
      Participant

      FUZZY science when real science does’nt work!

      TR

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    • #85390
      Arthur
      Participant

      The wicked government of BC is now imposing restrictions on churches.

      No restrictions if everyone is vaxxxed, of course. 50% capacity and masks (if not anti-socially distanced) if not. :negative:

      COVID-19: B.C. changes rules around masks, capacity limits at religious services

      Just a way to try to divide the church. The wicked elite know that the majority of people who reject the toxic gene therapy cocktail are Christians.

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      • #85394
        regina
        Participant

        Arthur, the idea of a fake new world order being replaced by “the” new world order, was something I didn’t know what to make of. Tonight I saw a broadcast I think is from India, at least the headquarters is in New Delhi. its TWIO News. The World Is One News. Calling for accountability over how money is spent that is gathered in the name of covid response, and gasp, to hold Justin Trudeau to account. Sounds like the one world can be managed better…

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhhpFqKs7io

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        • #85396
          Arthur
          Participant

          It was E-511 Ministries that introduced the idea and it made perfect sense to me. He is mid-trib though, so you have to filter out some things. On the whole, though, he is solid. (Just misguided escatologically.)

          I believe they want us to participate in the overthrowing of the old world order. The one run by bankers, big pharm, the Rockefellers, Soros, Gates, etc. The old world order will collapse on purpose. All their leaders will be arrested and be fake executed. (Using cgi, of course. They’ll be whisked away to underground bunkers.)

          With that all done, the “good guys” will announce the creation of a golden age of humanity where peace, love and tolerance will be a reality. This will be the Antichrist kingdom. It will pose as a good, virtuous kingdom that is nothing like the boot on your neck tyrrany that people are expecting. Many will be deceived.

          The trick is that the old world order and new world order people are the same people. The old world order people (Gates, Soros, Swaub, etc. will have to go underground but they will still be actively working with the Antichrist in the background.

          I believe things will get crazier before the Rapture but our Blessed Hope will happen before the overthrow of the Old World Order. All the fake Christians (like Dominionists/Kingdom Now/New Apostolic Reformation) will help explain away the Rapture and announce that this is the prophesized millennial Kingdom.

          For me, it is the only way to explain all the nuttiness going on with fake elections and the coronafraud.

          Whatever the case, Almighty God is in control and has a perfect plan. He’ll take care of us. :good:

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    • #85422
      Arthur
      Participant

      Here’s a story that should infuriate you. Praise God that this man survived.

      https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/dying-covid-19-patient-recovers-after-court-orders-hospital-administer-ivermectin

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    • #85429
      Arthur
      Participant

      It’s stupidity like this that makes me believe that this has to be intentional. No one could be that tone deaf.

      This is like saying  “let them eat cake” to infuriate the masses to get them to rebel.

       

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    • #85433
      Blue
      Participant

      I am thinking the first lockdown was a trial run, then current new lockdowns may be because the destruction is about to come.  If you believe the Revelation 12:3 dragon is a planet that is passing through and about to cause great destruction.  Jeffrey McGaha YT videos have some great info on it.

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