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    • #101882
      Avatar photoDonna
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      . . .    if we,  as believers are already fully saved, Jesus declaring ‘it is finished;.   .  .I’m curious why  Jesus as God/Man  Glorified Who knows all, intercedes for us today to His Father, yes, unto  our God Who already knows the end from the beginning?

       

      I imagine  In the Light of God’s Spirit,  Jesus intercedes for us with great Heavenly exuberance communing with His Father with unimaginable Majestic God-joy.   And of His Glory, aren’t we glad He likes to ‘show’ us as only can, His amazing epic communing within the Triune God.  He loves to express!   I picture Jesus in Spirit going in and out of the Glory Cloud of God, manifesting to us in Heaven as the Man God too when He steps out of the Glory God so very God . .   He knows exactly what satisfies His children in learning . . oh, . . for  God’s pleasure .

      . will we one day see The Majesty  of God communing interceding  within the Triune God? . .  I imagine we’ll watch within His Cloud of Splendor with unimaginable joy, His  great Glorious Power  expressed over His saved ones . . What a Gift our God shall grant us . .  . to forever gaze on our Lord and His relationship as the Triune God increasingly?  Can’t wait to be rejoicing unimagninably over His Majesty in realization such is His Glorious Pleasure ~

      Kinda’ how we feel when we watch our children playing sports,   . we cheer  them on and can’t keep inside  our enthusiasm   ~~

    • #101886
      Geri9
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      While in this world, even though we are saved, heaven bound and can’t lose our salvation, satan and demons will go on the attack to try to discourage us any way they can … so Jesus is praying for us as we go thru our trials.

       

      Luke 22:31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:

      32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.

    • #101887
      Geri9
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      Also even though we are heaven bound … every day we are still going to sin in these earthly bodies.  If we have unconfessed sin … our fellowship will be broken with God .. until we pray and ask for forgiveness.

    • #101891
      Avatar photoDonna
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      yes, Geri,  good response . .

      Luke 22:31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:

      32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.

       

       

    • #101911
      Avatar photoDonna
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      ~ ~”Speaking of Jesus, the writer to the Hebrews says, “Therefore He is able also to save forever those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them” (Hebrews 7:25). This verse (and others like it) tells us that although Christ’s work to secure the salvation of the elect was completed on the cross, as evidenced by His cry “It is finished!” (John 19:30), His care for His redeemed children will never be finished.

      Jesus did not go to heaven after His earthly ministry and “take a break” from His role as eternal Shepherd to His people. “For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life” (Romans 5:10, emphasis added). If when humble, despised, dying, and dead, He had the power to accomplish so great a work as reconciling us to God, how much more may we expect that He will be able to keep us now that He is a living, exalted, and triumphant Redeemer, raised to life and interceding on our behalf before the throne (Romans 8:34). Clearly, Jesus is still very active on our behalf in heaven.

      After Jesus ascended to heaven and was seated at the right hand of God the Father (Acts 1:9; Colossians 3:1), He returned to the glory He had before His incarnation (John 17:5) to carry on His role of King of kings and Lord of lords—His eternal role as the second Person of the triune God. While this old earth continues to be “won” for Christ, Jesus is the Advocate for Christians, meaning He is our great Defender. This is the intercessory role He currently fulfills for those who are His (1 John 2:1). Jesus is always pleading our case before the Father, like a defense lawyer on our behalf.

      Jesus is interceding for us while Satan (whose name means “accuser”) is accusing us, pointing out our sins and frailties before God, just as he did with Job (Job 1:6-12). But the accusations fall upon deaf ears in heaven, because Jesus’ work on the cross paid our sin debt in full; therefore, God always sees in His children the perfect righteousness of Jesus. When Jesus died on the cross, His righteousness (perfect holiness) was imputed to us, while our sin was imputed to Him at His death. This is the great exchange Paul talks about in 2 Corinthians 5:21. That took away forever our sinful state before God, so God can accept us as blameless before Him.

      Finally, it is important to understand that Jesus is the only human mediator between God and man. No one else—not Mary, not any previous Christian saints—has the power to intercede for us before the throne of the Almighty. No angel has that position. Christ alone is the God-man, and He mediates and intercedes between God and man. “For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus” (1 Timothy 2:5).”

      https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-interceding.html

    • #101915
      Avatar photoDonna
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      2 things, also ~

      Our Lord Jesus as our Intercessor  ‘puts perfume on our prayers’,  since we still do sin.  Til we reach Home, our prayers need to be presented to our Father in perfection  through our Lord, we learn how much He is our Advocate also  ~

       

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