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    • #80756
      Heidi
      Participant

      I noticed that I am signed up for an education course about vaccines, so maybe my religious exemption got accepted. I have taken a few days off and don’t want to check my work email to confirm.

      I have finished the course and here are some highlights:

      First, a woman is sharing her story. She said she did not want to take the shot at first because of religious reasons and being scared of needles but then she thought it is the best thing to do to keep people and her family safe. She has been feeling peaceful since she got the vaccine and that was the best decision she ever made. (best decision you ever made? don’t you think that sounds a bit melodramatic? )

      Then we had to answer a few a true and false questions, among them:

      1. Vaccines are safe for pregnant women.

      I thought I should give them the answers they wanted to hear, so I selected “true”

      when I hit “submit”, I got a confirmation that my answer was correct and that the vaccine is safe for pregnant women.

      2. C19 vaccines have no long term effects.

      My answer: true.

      Correct! they have no long-term effects.

      we were also taught that the non-vaccinated will get very sick and even die

      then I watched a video about how our natural immunity takes days to make the antibodies to protect us from viruses , whereas these vaccines, make them right away ( Aha! didn’t I say on one of the threads that God must have missed something when he made our immune systems and the pharmaceutical companies fixed it for us. Now I know what it is)

      There was a question if we should take the vaccine if we had c19, the answer was yes since they don’t know how much our natural immunity will last (so they are not sure how long our natural immunity lasts but they were quick to figure out that the vaccines immunity lasts long. Clever!………..wait a minute, what about all the endless booster shots they recently announced?)

      they also said that c19 is really bad and can harm our brains and heart ( last I heard the shots do that)

      We had one final question at the end.

      will  you take the vaccine?

      My answer: No!

       

      Questions anybody?

       

       

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    • #80759
      Loz
      Participant

      The last answer is the only one that matters.

      That is some serious propaganda from your employers, of course they are instructed to issue these questionnaires to try and catch some “refusers” by making them feel guilty and thus complying with their wishes.

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    • #80777
      Yohanan
      Moderator

      What deception they are dealing out. Right, no long term effects because people aren’t living long enough after the jab to find out. Scientifically speaking, though, how can they possibly make such a false statement when there hasn’t been any near term much less long term trials? THAT would be reason enough not to trust them.

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    • #80779
      Geri9
      Participant

      What a tease … you had yes for every answer but the last one. :mdrmdr: :mdrmdr:

      Did the survey software go nuts at the end when you said NO! ?   I’m surprised it didn’t have the additional question … are you sure you mean NO??? :mdrmdr:

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    • #80784
      Yohanan
      Moderator

      If they are using Dominion machines it will just change her answers for her. 😳 😁

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    • #80785
      Heidi
      Participant

      What do you mean “No”? :mdrmdr:

       

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    • #80786
      Heidi
      Participant

      Thank God a gloved hand did not come out of the screen and punch me in the face.

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      • #80788
        Geri9
        Participant

        No it wouldn’t be a punch but a needle in their hand. :-(    Be prepared for more brainwashing  :wacko: classes …

        Let’s hope the rapture in within the next few days/weeks to get out of this insane world. In the meantime … stay happy and indulge in some cheesecake. I’m going to do the no-bake later today. :whistle:

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    • #80807
      Heidi
      Participant

      Everything happens for a reason.

      I mentioned my ND not have  been reliable for a while. Many times I can’t get a hold of him for weeks. I am also angry with my regular MD because he told me: the shots are so safe, safer than the flu shot.

      I had a telephone appointment with him and I told him that I am angry with my MD and if he can recommend a back up for me in case I can’t get a hold of him.

      He gave me the name of an MD who is prescribing ivermectin to patients. He said that doctor is almost retired, he doesn’t care if they come after him  so he might as well do the right thing.

      He suggested I get a prescription just in case. I think he mentioned that he can also write a  letter why you can’t get the shot.

      He said his daughter got C19 and was ok a couple of days later when she did the hydrogen peroxide treatment.

      When I told my ND that my MD said: the shots are so safe, safer than the flu shot. My ND muttered: “Jesus”

      A prayer for all the health care workers who are speaking up and doing the right thing:

      Dear Lord, richly bless the health care workers who are speaking up and treating this disease the right way. Put warrior angels around them and their families. Put warrior angels around their homes and all their belongings. Provide for them and let them lack nothing. Bless them with wonderful health, save them all, their families and loved ones.

      In Jesus’s name.

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      • #80813
        Geri9
        Participant

        Yes, I agree everything works out for good. :yes:

        Do you, by any chance, know what the solution formula is for the “hydrogen peroxide” treatment?

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    • #80818
      Heidi
      Participant

      Geri, my ND explained more than once but I have so much on my mind that I did not really get it and thought I would ask him again about it when I see him in October.

      He did mention mixing 250 ml distilled clean water with 1/3 teaspoon seasalt

      Pulling out 3 cc in a diabetic needle , using .04  hydrogen peroxide,

      Using a nebulizer and breathing it in…

      These are things that I jotted quickly down when he was talking

      He mentioned checking Dr Brownstein’ s website for instruction or finding a youtube video

      I am sorry my instructions are so vague

      Maybe health care workers on Ritan would know or you can check that doctors website or Dr.

      Mercola

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

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    • #80846
      David W. Roche
      Moderator

      https://www.theguardian.com/science/2012/sep/05/genes-genome-junk-dna-encode

      [quote]For years, the vast stretches of DNA between our 20,000 or so protein-coding genes – more than 98% of the genetic sequence inside each of our cells – was written off as “junk” DNA. Already falling out of favour in recent years, this concept will now, with Encode’s work, be consigned to the history books.[/quote]

      Perhaps some here will recall the term “junk DNA”. For a number of years, it was a popular expression. Movies and TV show plots took advantage of how that junk could be activated again. The problem is, the theory was garbage, and is now discarded.

      Flash forward a few years to the future. Remember those mRNA shots you took to save humanity? Yeah… turns out they can give you heart disease and blood clots. But we’re not supposed to know that now. Just take the shot, we’re told. It won’t possibly harm you! Never mind what people are warning about; if there’s a problem with the shot, just change the definitions. Baffle them with bovine scat.

      Or to put it another way, “Shut up, he explained.”

      No, God did not overlook something when He designed our immune systems. It’s always these “educated beyond their intelligence” scientists and doctors who tell us they know better than God how to solve problems. Then later, they often discover they have done more harm than good. And so what if many, many people get sick and die from their experimental gene therapy? The science is settled! That’s what they thought in the Middle Ages, too.

      Or maybe some of these Dr. Mengeles know exactly what they’re up to and consider depopulation to be a feature of their plans and not a bug.

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    • #80866
      Heidi
      Participant

      I just checked my email. I have an appointment with the director of HR to understand how my religious beliefs prevent me from taking the vaccine.( I need to defend myself for refusing to be injected with poison)

      I confirmed that I am available for the appointment asked for a union rep to be with me ( I had that option) I just called an attorney and am waiting for a call back

       

      I am sick of this wotld

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      • #80868
        Perhaps Today
        Participant

        Pastor JD Farag is supposed to have info on his web site stating why the vax is against your religion. Good Luck Heidi.

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    • #80869
      Geri9
      Participant

      Keep us posted when you have THAT meeting so we can pray for you.  That’s a GREAT idea Perhaps Today has … to print out J.D.’s info about the dangers of the vaxx so you can study it closely and give the director a copy.

      Perhaps you will be able to win that person over with your testimony?

      Praying also the rapture happens in the meantime!

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    • #80870
      tenderreed
      Participant

      You go girl!

      TR

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    • #80877
      Yohanan
      Moderator

      From a religious perspective don’t forget to mention the fetal tissue used to make the vaxx.

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      • #80878
        Perhaps Today
        Participant

        I am quite sure Pastor JD Farag has fetal tissue as one of his reasons.

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    • #80882
      David W. Roche
      Moderator

      [quote from Heidi]
      then I watched a video about how our natural immunity takes days to make the antibodies to protect us from viruses , whereas these vaccines, make them right away ( Aha! didn’t I say on one of the threads that God must have missed something when he made our immune systems and the pharmaceutical companies fixed it for us. Now I know what it is)[/quote]

      Heidi, this comment really needs more attention, as it is in error. You also made this observation on another thread as well:

      Coronavirus Talk v.15.5

      [quote]I have been thinking that while creating out immune system, God must have missed a couple of things. However, the pharmaceutical companies figured it out and fixed things[/quote]

      When God created us, He made us to function perfectly. We live in a fallen world, where sin has corrupted many things. There is no need to accuse God of having missed anything.

      Side question:
      https://answersingenesis.org/biology/microbiology/why-did-god-make-viruses/

      Back to the original point. Not only was God’s creation pronounced, “very good,” the pharmaceutical companies (especially with regards to this engineered bio-weapon) are not improving anything. The long-term effects of their experimentation upon the human race may very well prove devastating. In a similar way, the tampering with the genetic code of plants and animals (genetically modified organisms) will result in God having to intervene as He did in the days of Noah to rid the world of contamination. The scientists are not “fixing God’s flawed creation.” They are destroying it!

      https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/eu-regulator-lists-heart-condition-possible-side-effect-mrna-vaccines-2021-07-09/

      [quote]The conditions, myocarditis and pericarditis, must be listed as side-effects of the two mRNA vaccines, the safety committee of the European Medicines Agency (EMA) said, adding that such cases primarily occurred within 14 days of inoculation.[/quote]

      It is difficult to get accurate information on this, since most links about the dangers of mRNA “vaccines” are being scrubbed from the Internet.

      https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/09/read-cdc-changes-definition-of-vaccines-to-fit-covid-19-vaccine-limitations/

      https://www.southshorehealth.org/wellness/blog/cdc-guidelines-vaccinated-people-what-you-need-know

      [quote]
      Know the definition of “fully vaccinated” against COVID-19
      The CDC defines someone as “fully vaccinated” two weeks after they’ve received their final dose of the vaccine.

      This means you can follow these guidelines two weeks after you get:

      The single-dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine
      The second dose of the Moderna vaccine
      The second dose of the Pfizer vaccine

      It takes time for your immune system to produce the antibodies that will protect you.[/quote]

      That means if you get the shot, get sick and/or die within a couple of weeks, perhaps as a complication of receiving it, you’re going to be put down as having been “unvaccinated.”

      Never had heart disease or in perfect health prior to receiving their “vaccine”? Well, they’re not going to acknowledge it was caused by what they did.

      Great is our Lord and mighty in power;
      his understanding has no limit.  Psalm 147:5

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      • #80885
        churchgal
        Participant

        David- I may be speaking out of turn…but I think that Heidi meant that comment about “God must have missed something” sarcastically….that’s how I took it anyway. :rose:

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        • #80888
          Loz
          Participant

          I would have to agree with churchgal on this, it took me a minute or two to process that indeed Heidi was indeed being sarcastic, a very British trait aswell!

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    • #80884
      Heidi
      Participant

      David

      You took me seriously?

      I was joking.

      Sorry about that.

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    • #80886
      Heidi
      Participant

      Hi David

      God the creator of the universe never makes mistakes

      I am sorry if someone thought I was being serious

      I would never disrespect God :rose:

       

       

       

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    • #80892
      David W. Roche
      Moderator

      Just wanted to be clear.  Thanks.

       

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    • #80904
      Heidi
      Participant

      Hi David,

      I am really so sorry. I did not mean to offend anybody. This may sound strange after all the sarcastic remarks that I have been making recently on my posts, but I am against sarcasm. I am upset at so many injustices in this world right now that I am venting through sarcasm.

      If somebody misunderstood me or if I offended anybody, then I am very sorry.

      Love you all

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    • #80916
      tenderreed
      Participant

      No harm, no foul!

      TR

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    • #80921
      Heidi
      Participant

      I looked up the physician whom I was told prescribes ivermectin.

      I am copying and pasting stuff from the website:

      “Please note:

      Certificates of Medical Exemption are generally not available at this clinic.

      Dr. Hassell is on a voluntary leave of absence from York Medical and continues in good health. He regrets not being able to help those who sought his care. He is extremely grateful to the York Medical staff and management for their support, both of himself and for those patients who have tried to reach him through the clinic. His colleagues at the clinic will be happy to care for you.
      After years of practicing family medicine, I am now working only at York Medical, a multi-physician walk-in setting. It is generally open every day from 9 AM until 6  PM. When I am not on duty, one of my colleagues will be pleased to care for  you. In the evening, please make sure to arrive before 5:30 PM in order to secure a place. Once you register, you will generally be given the option to leave, and some idea of a safe time to return when your place in the queue will be saved.”

       

      I am not sure what to make of this.

      He is at a walk-in clinic now and it looks like if I go there, I might get someone else.

      What do you think about this?

       

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    • #80924
      churchgal
      Participant

      I think the doctors at americasfrontlinedoctors.org are able to see people on a telehealth visit to prescribe ivermectin if needed.  or you can always call that office and see if that doctor is available to see?

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    • #80926
      Yohanan
      Moderator

      I love good sarcasm!

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    • #80963
      tenderreed
      Participant

      I wish I could be more sarcastic, but I don’t care!

      TR

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    • #80968
      Arthur
      Participant

      No real harm in Heidi’s joke. Well played. :good:

      My ancestors were responsible, anyway. ;-)

      WHO WERE THE FIRST ONES TO USE SARCASM?

      The Vikings were the real origin of sarcasm

      The Danish Ambassador, very cunningly admired that sarcasm was actually brought to the UK by the Vikings.(The Vikings were seafaring Scandinavians engaged in exploring, raiding and trading in waters and lands outside of Scandinavia, from the eighth to eleventh centuries).

       

      The British language has a straight-to-your-face tone which is the use of understatement and satire and that is thought to have originated from the Vikings.

       

      HOW?

       

      When they brought trade from across the world to British shores.

       

      The Vikings influenced the Britishers with the words and expressions they used. These words and expressions eventually became a part of their everyday language, also to be seen in some of the words and place’s names we use today, and ultimately in OUR caustic sense of humor.

      The Origin Of Sarcasm Was From The Vikings, Really?

       

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    • #81005
      MyWhiteStone
      Participant

      So Arthur… the article you cited reads, “…The origin of sarcasm was from Greek language to finally Latin language.”  Pre-Greek and Latin???  Okay. Let’s see…

      The article later volunteers, as you too copied, “…(The Vikings were seafaring Scandinavians engaged in exploring, raiding and trading in waters and lands outside of Scandinavia, from the eighth to eleventh centuries).”

      Definitely pre-Greek and Latin!  Yeah, right! :whistle: :unsure: ;-)

       

      [PS – the above was merely a test to demonstrqate sarcasm — something which I usually avoid like the plague unless it’s friendly and obvious. :yes:   I don’t really like confrontations.  I hope Arthur didn’t feel confronted. :feedback , Arthur.]

       

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      • #81030
        Arthur
        Participant

        Meh. I am not offended nor do I feel confronted.

        The Norse were around for thousands of years before the new kids on the block, the Greeks and the Romans. ;-)

         

         

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    • #81014
      Heidi
      Participant

      I am sorry to change the subject back to religious exemption. (I loved the sarcasm posts, please continue after this) I have a meeting with HR on Monday at 10 am.

      A union rep is going to be with me. He expressed concern about me having a letter form an online pastor in Hawaii. I told him I have been attending that church online for at least 3 or 4 years. He thinks in this case it might be OK. He told me they will ask me more about why I can’t take the vaccine and to stick to religious reasons. He said the HR lady might sound friendly and understanding but she is really trying to trick me so only answer the questions she asks and don’t elaborate.

      He asked me if I know for sure there is fetal tissue in them. He said he hears people talk about that but do we know for sure? I said no I don’t know for sure either. Maybe only some vaccines have them. Maybe J & J?

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    • #81027
      MyWhiteStone
      Participant

      Heidi, I have been poking around again since the coronavirus threads trailed off a bit last week or so, and again found Liberty Counsel amazing as a resource.  The main site is https://www.lc.org/ and related is https://www.lcaction.org/vaccine.  That’s crammed and stuffed with related links.

      Also check out https://lc.org/exempt for sure.  There is a bullet item 4 down a ways, that makes a point: “4. Questioning Religious Beliefs is Unlawful.”  You might be bolstered by that.  Items 5 has a link to Liberty Counsel’s suggested steps and their legal involvement is also offered, free of charge I suspect.

      Cutting to the chase relative to HR and your exemption, look over the information at https://noqreport.com/2021/09/05/liberty-counsel-creates-religious-exemption-letters-for-americans-fighting-vaccine-mandates/   Some of it is from links above…

      And pray.  The Lord has not given us a spirit of fear.  Let’s rely on Him for everything.

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    • #81029
      churchgal
      Participant

      Some excellent resources posted MWS! Very helpful and one basic thing to remember Heidi, your body is a temple and if there is any evidence that harm could happen to you by taking the vax (and obviously there is evidence that harm is possible) then you would defer on taking anything that you believe could cause your body harm, and with regards to the fetal cell line- I believe the mrna vax both Moderna and Pfizer have these but the J and J has animal cells in them and I also believe there is a chemical that is in all of them as a preservative that is carcinogenic (can cause cancer) I saw this on a video and I can’t remember exactly which chemical but will see if I can find it. Prayers going up! :prayer-hands:

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    • #81044
      Arthur
      Participant

      Praying for a good outcome. May the Lord God make a way where there doesn’t seem to be a way. :prayer-hands:

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    • #81059
      Heidi
      Participant

      MyWhiteStone, thank you so much for the lovely resources. They are very good. I love the guy talking in the video. (forgot his name)

      Thank you for pointing out #4 Questioning Religious Beliefs is Unlawful.

       

      Arthur, thank you very much for your prayers.

       

      Churchgal, thank you very much for the information.

      I do have a question about something you said.

      “Heidi, your body is a temple and if there is any evidence that harm could happen to you by taking the vax (and obviously there is evidence that harm is possible) then you would defer on taking anything that you believe could cause your body harm”

      I was thinking that since our bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, then we should not put anything in them that defiles that temple and/or things that God abhors. For example, aborted fetal tissues.

      However, does it also mean that if we believe anything is harmful to our bodies, we can reject it on the same religious grounds?

      Can anybody explain this to me?

      thank you

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      • #81071
        churchgal
        Participant

        Heidi- There has been a lot of varying beliefs about what should or should not be eaten, drank or placed on the body and what thing “defiles” it. I would leave it to this one test….if it bothers you in your spirit to partake of something, wear or dress any particular way and including taking a medical treatment or a vax…then don’t. I find this helpful to me, hopefully it will to you :heart:

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    • #81063
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Simply put, as God’s creation we have certain rights afforded by God!

      End of story, and a resounding testimony!

      TR

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    • #81072
      Heidi
      Participant

      I just saw a video clip of Trudeau shouting passionately: “don’t think you are going to get on a plane or a train next to a vaccinated person and put them at risk”

      Huh?

      A couple of years ago, I was at the doctor’s office with a horrible flu. I said: I am sorry to be here and putting you at risk. The doctor smiled and said very confidently: Oh no,  I am OK. I have gotten my flu shot.

      yes, last I heard if you get a vaccine, you are supposed to be protected.

      Mr. Trudeau what is all this shouting about? they tell us that vaccine protects us from c19 then you are shouting your head off: don’t expect to sit next to a vaccinated person and put them at risk.

      They are not making sense. People wake up and use some common sense. Isn’t it easy to see through their lies?

      Dear PM, thank you for being so passionate and shouting about wanting to protect Canadians. Can we please see your bank account? How many deposits from Moderna and Pfizer.

       

       

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      • #81078
        Geri9
        Participant

        Heidi, when you mentioned Trudeau … it triggers Kevin Trudeau … I wonder if he and Justin are anyway related in the bloodline … maybe 2nd cousin … once removed? :scratch:

        Kevin Trudeau is an author, and a two-time convicted felon … 11 counts credit card fraud …. Promoting alternative medicine and questionable diet and financial remedies with his books / info commercials.   Thee keeper of information that they (the government) don’t want you to know. B-)

        One of his fraud schemes … “He asserted that the University of Calgary had developed a “natural” diabetes treatment, then quashed its data, fearing reprisals from the pharmaceutical industry.[23] (A spokesman for the school told ABC News that “there have been no human studies conducted at the University of Calgary in the past 20 years on herbal remedies for diabetes.” The university later sent Trudeau a “cease and desist” letter, ordering him to stop using its name.”   :mdrmdr:

         

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    • #81076
      Heidi
      Participant

      Who doesn’t admire brave people and heroes.

      I wish I can share the video but I am not sure how.

      It is on instagram by Jody Ledgerwood.

      Several people are seen sitting in a food court in a mall in Ontario having their meal when the police and security guards came to tell them that they have to leave because they don’t have a vax. pass. They told them that this is unconstitutional, that vaccines are not mandated in Canada. If the businesses are doing it because governments told them to, that is still not legal. They said that the police, whose duty is to uphold the law, should be going after the government for breaking the law and not come to law abiding citizens who are just peacefully having a  meal they just bought. They cited a lot of laws. They were very knowledgeable. A the end, the police left.

      I forward the video to people on whatsapp.

      Good for them! Hope more people become bold and not submit to tyranny.

      They said if you email Jody, she will send you digital info on your rights.

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    • #81080
      Heidi
      Participant

      No clue if Kevin Trudeau is related to him.

      Goodness! he doesn’t sound like a nice guy.

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      • #81081
        Geri9
        Participant

        Yeah he’s a real slimeball.  Been married at least 3 times and 3 divorces  … one marriage only lasted 4 months. :wacko:

        He was on the late night info commercials selling his book(s).  I actually did buy his first book … thankfully not thru him but at Barnes & Nobel  “Natural Cures “They” Don’t Want You to Know About”.   I knew by the 2nd chapter it was a bunch of hog wash so I returned it and they took it back no questions ask. :mdrmdr:

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    • #81103
      Heidi
      Participant

      I have seen so much evil in this world, that in a way nothing surprises me.

      However, having to attend a meeting tomorrow to try to stop someone from injecting me with a substance that is going to cause me serious harm or even kill me is something that I never thought would happen. I can’t describe my feelings. This is surreal.

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      • #81110
        Geri9
        Participant

        :prayer-hands:  That all goes well with tomorrow’s meeting and that you won’t be nervous and you can present your case of the dangers of this jab and that the Lord will soften the heart of this Director in H.R. and you will be not only exempt from the jab but won’t have to do any of the weekly costly covid tests either.

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    • #81119
      Heidi
      Participant

      Thank you so much Geri

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    • #81156
      Heidi
      Participant

      I just finished my interview

      She asked me to tell her about my religion and how long I have been a Christian

      She asked if I am a registered member of a church

      She said there is no aborted fetal tissue in the c19 vaccine and if she got me a document to prove it will I take the vaccine ?

      She said if pfizer and Moderna use fetal cell, Astra ze ne ca doesn’t and J and J don’t. If they are available in Canada, will I be willing to take them

      She said she has to discuss my issues with someone and get back to me next week

      When I logged off the meeting

      I shouted ” murderers”

      I am agitated

      I won’t be able to handle it financially but if I loose my job, so be it.

      I am sick of evil people

       

       

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    • #81162
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Are’nt we all!  Won’t be long now!

      TR

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    • #81163
      Heidi
      Participant

      Won’t be long

      Amen to that!

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    • #81167
      Heidi
      Participant

      It’s unnerving how much they seem determined to inject you with something.

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    • #81168
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Understanding their agenda and their evil hearts goes a long way!

      TR

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    • #81185
      Heidi
      Participant

      The way Mike Adams writes is such a comic relief. I laugh so much when I read stuff he writes
      He wrote that Moderna will be giving people who got their vaccines booster shots till eternity.

      I have a mental image of someone with a needle at heaven’s gate still chasing someone who has passed away to get their next booster shot

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    • #81189
      tenderreed
      Participant

      LOL!

      TR

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    • #81190
      Heidi
      Participant

      Wouldn’t put it past them.

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      • #81192
        Jason
        Participant

        Heidi,
        I am a member in the military as a reserve member with over 18 years of service, and I understand what your going through. I also am a federal employee subject to the mandates there as well. I hope I can help you, as brothers and sisters in Christ, we know his kingdom is vast and we can come together to fight the evil that is at hand… so maybe this information will equip you.

        https://news.gab.com/tag/religious-exemption/

        there are a few documents listed on this site, but this one lays out the fetal cells in the vaccines.

        https://news.gab.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Vaccine-Exemption-Religious-Side-Supporting-Document.doc

        on a side note, thank you all for keeping up with the communication regarding God, events in the world, and pursuing truth. Stand tall and hold the line. It will get worse, but we all know how this will end. I have been following this site for a while and this is my first post. I just love you guys and am blessed to have found you! Let me know how I can help!

        God bless!

         

         

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    • #81193
      Heidi
      Participant

      Hi Jason

      Great to hear from you! I am glad you posted.
      Thank you very much for the information. It’s very helpful.

      Praying all goes well for you too

      Keep posting

      Heidi

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    • #81196
      churchgal
      Participant

      Welcome Jason!!

      Glad to have you and let me thank you for your service in our military! It is because of men like you that we have the freedoms we have today, and there are millions in our country who still regard your service and sacrifice. :good:

      Prayers for your safety and that you will also be able to get an exemption from this jab….

      We are all hoping that we don’t have much longer to try to avoid and dodge the evil that is being perpetrated

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    • #81197
      Heidi
      Participant

      Thank you Jason for your service in the military.

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    • #81198
      tenderreed
      Participant

      We are blessed by your presence here!

      Hope to meet you soon!

      TR

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    • #81212
      Yohanan
      Moderator

      Welcome, Jason!

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    • #82239
      Heidi
      Participant

      I still haven’t heard from HR.

      May I please ask for a prayer? I am not well today. I am very down.

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      • #82255
        Loz
        Participant

        🙏🏾

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    • #82246
      Arthur
      Participant

      Heavenly Father, hear your humble servant’s cry for answers. Please make a way for her religious exemption to be accepted. Soften heart, change minds and open doors. Give Heidi the inner peace that only You can give. We pray believing in a good outcome. In Jesus’ Mighty Name, Amen.

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    • #82249
      Heidi
      Participant

      Thank you very much, Arthur.

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    • #82257
      tenderreed
      Participant

      With all blessings and love we stand still to see your deliverance from a loving heavenly Father!

      The Lord knows and loves you Heidi!  What’s not to love?!

      TR

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    • #82265
      Heidi
      Participant

      TR, I am very  touched by what you said. thank you

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    • #83000
      Heidi
      Participant

      I just got an email from HR about a follow up meeting tomorrow. I accepted it and shut down my work laptop. How can I concentrate on work?

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      • #83007
        Geri9
        Participant

        Any other co-workers standing firm and resisting the jab or have they all caved in?   If they haven’t taken the jab is HR harassing them?  Or did they find a loop hole from the mandates?

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    • #83009
      Heidi
      Participant

      I don’t know Geri. I asked  my colleague who has been chatting with me on whatsapp if she got an exemption, she did  not respond. we have been sending many texts  so she might have not noticed the text with that question. I did not want to ask again. A colleague whom I texted a month ago, never responded. we are not standing together. this is not good.

      look what happened with South West airlines. did they not reverse the mandate when people stood together?

      It’s not an option for me to say a prayer and take the shot to keep my job. taking that shot is too traumatic for me.

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    • #83116
      Heidi
      Participant

      The HR director said she  shared my concerns about the shot with a hospital  (fetal tissue use, gene therapy and carcinogens) They said fetal tissue is not used, these shots are not gene therapy and there are no carcinogens in them so my concerns are not valid and they can’t approve my exemption request.

      they said I have until November 15 to get my first shot. If I don’t do that, I will be put on unpaid leave as of January 1.

      I emailed my manager  who is a christian. She called me and spoke to me for a while. I told her if people got the shot and are feeling well, they probably got a placebo and that thing is still in trial stage. She said the trials are over and nobody is getting a placebo.

      I felt so much mental strain. wondering again if we are  wrong, I called my ND, he said he can’t  tell me what to do cause my job is at stake. I asked are these shots safe? He said no, but it does not really seem to matter what he thinks only what others think.

      He said his sister got the shot and seems to be doing ok so in a way , he sounded unsure himself. I said but they can cause clots, He said yes the spike proteins will end up in the brain. ………………….. he said it ‘s like playing russian rouletter with these shots. some people are not feeling a thing.

      I am really confused and have so much mental strain right now.

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      • #83120
        Arthur
        Participant

        It’s sad that people can be so misinformed or can tell a bald faced lie without blinking an eye.

        The vaxxxes (most of them. Not sure about Sputnik, AZ or the Chinese ones) used research derived from the murder of children. That is indisputable. For those who took the vaxxx, I would venture to say that every one of us has taken so ething derived from the murder of children so that is a reflection of how wicked the world has become.

        It absolutely has unsafe ingredients. Even from the ones they actually divulge. (They supposedly have propietery secrets which is absurd.) Propylene Glycol which they have divulged (Antifreeze) is absolutely not good for you at all. It definitely qualifies as a carcinogen.

        As for it not being a gene therapy, that’s another lie. It trains your body to produce and attack “spike proteins.” It also attacks non-spike proteins (syncytin) that are necessary for reproduction but that’s a coincidence I’m sure. :wacko:

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    • #83119
      Melissa
      Participant

      Hi Heidi, I got the Pfizer shot, two doses, and had no serious side affects.  I did it because I want to be able to fly and visit my grandchildren.  I was really disappointed though to learn that all three shots were developed from fetal cell lines (not just Johnson & Johnson).  Not sure if I would have taken the shot having that info. I think it is good to take a stand and admire those who do.  Very difficult though when your job is at stake.  Sorry you are faced with this decision.  Will pray for you for guidance🙏🙏💕

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    • #83148
      Heidi
      Participant

      Thank you so much Melissa and Arthur.

      Arthur, thank you for the info. I really felt so much mental strain when they said my info is wrong and also my manger thought the shots are OK.

      I keep thinking ( or maybe I am just trying to make myself feel better about not having a job in the winter) that it would not be safe to go out much during the winter. with weather conditions being bad for driving, I will end up on public transit with lots of people around me and it’s flu season plus people shedding.

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    • #83219
      Heidi
      Participant

      may I have your opinions on these things?

      1. I have not yet read the letter that HR sent me. I am sure it will include what the hospital says in regards to my believes about these shots not being true. I would  not be surprised if they did not back it up by documentation.

      should I respond to the letter backing up my believes with documentation or let it be since who cares about facts? They just want to push the shot on people.

      2.  some  people are suggesting sending a letter of conditional acceptance to the shot instead of a rejection. The letter includes many questions to the employer including:

      can  you guarantee that these shots are not gene therapy?

      can you show me data on short and long term safety studies ?

      at the end it asks for someone to sign taking full responsibility legally and financially if you got the shot and got injured.

      they are saying that employers can’t provide the documents you are asking for and are not willing to sign and assume liability. They think this is a better approach than rejecting the shot.

      My problem with this is that employers might still be able to come up with some documents (with false or misleading info in them)

      they might also sign and then claim an injury was not because of the vaccine

      your thoughts would be appreciated

      thank you

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    • #83225
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Indeed, putting the onus on them and pointing out it has been ruled that employers can indeed be held liable!

      PS: time for a new thread!

      TR

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    • #83293
      Yohanan
      Moderator

      Carry on here.

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