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September 22, 2019 at 1:37 pm #7574
I have revisited Daniel’s 1290, 1335 days, ( in which Daniel has never mentioned 1260 days ), 42 months in Revelation 11:2 and Revelation 13:5, a time, times and half time in Daniel 7:25, Daniel 12:7, Revelation 12:14, I have a new timeline which fits into all these criteria. It is not too far off from my previous timeline. This new timeline shall put rapture and tribulation on July 22 / Av 1 2020, with 1335 days ended on Tammuz 26 2027. The key point is Daniel’s 2300 days is an actual 1300 days. When I have time, I shall elaborate my thought here. Stay tuned.
September 22, 2019 at 1:40 pm #7575
Is Daniel’s 2300 days, or 1300 days?
Daniel 8:14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
I have attached the Hebrew verse below.
Notice that the Hebrew אַלְפַּ֖יִם is interpreted as Strong word 505 eleph or one thousand.
eleph: a thousand
Original Word: אֶלֶף
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Phonetic Spelling: (eh’-lef)
Definition: a thousand
I think the confusion of 2300 days came from Christians era by early church writers to apply the original number from Daniel 8:14 to the desecration of temple by Antiochus IV. This is why they possibly changed the 1300 days to 2300 days to better fit into the history.
Below is the different view of early church writers:
1. 1296 days given by Josephus
2. The 2200 days or 1100 evenings and mornings of Jerome.
3. 1300 days of Jerome
4. 1150 days of Polychronius
5. The 2400 evenings and mornings or days of Theodotion. This is also what Vatican holds.
6. The 2300 days of our modern bible.
Anyhow, let’s say the original context points to 1300 days. From my previous timeline, I had 1335 days ended on Tammuz 26 2027. I got this idea from the number 153 when Tammuz 26 is the real Shavuot, not Sivan 6. 153 represents the total fish netted. On a future Tammuz 26, which is 153 days from Passover Nisan 14, all the tribulation believers shall be netted as well. This shall summarize Christ’s work on the cross.
And since Daniel only mentioned 1290 days, 1335 days, and time, times and half time in the entire book, let’s focus on these numbers, with 1260 days omitted. 1335 days falls on Tammuz 26 / July 31 2027. Subtract 45 days, we got June 16 2027 as the end of 1290 days. Jesus shall return at the end of 1290 days. Subtract 2520 days from June 16 2027, we have July 22 2020 as the beginning of tribulation and the rapture.
July 22 2020 Rapture ——- 2520 days——— June 16 2027 End of 1290 days, Jesus returns to earth ——- 45 days—– Tammuz 26 July 31 2027 , End of 1335 days
As we can see, 1260 days is omitted on this timeline. There is only extra 45 days given for Christ to capture the beast, the false prophet, thrown them into the lake of fire, and restores holy, and judge the nations.
To calculate the beginning of 1290 days, we subtract 1290 days from June 16 2027, we got December 4 2023 which also falls on Kislev 21 in Jewish calendar.
December 4 Kislev 21 2023 ——-1290 days——- June 16 Sivan 11 2027 end of 1290 days, Jesus returns to earth
On Kislev 21 2023, when AC sets up the abomination, this is remembered by God as the “time”. God also numbers this abomination can only carry on with “a time, times, and half time”. The illustration of a time, times, and half time is below;
a time = Kislev 21 2024
times = Kislev 21 2025 , Kislev 21 2026
half time = Sivan 21 2027 ( by adding 6 biblical months to Kislev 21)
Kislev 21 2023 —-time, times, and half time —– Sivan 21 2027
On Sivan 21 2027, which falls on June 26, the abomination shall end, and holy can be restored. Surprisingly enough, from the beginning of abomination on Kislev 21 Dec 4 2023, to Sivan 21 June 26 2027 the end of abomination, there are exactly 1300 days separating them.
Kislev 21 Dec 4 2023 ——- 1300 days —— Sivan 21 June 26 2027
I believe this is the 1300 days foretold by the angel in Daniel 8:14. it also goes hand in hand with the “a time, times, and half time” we find in Daniel 7:25, Daniel 12:7 and Revelation 12:14.
Adding 1290 days to this picture, we have;
Kislev 21 Dec 4 2023 beginning of abomination —— 1290 days —— Sivan 11 June 16 2027 end of 1290 days, Jesus returns to earth—— 10 days later—- Sivan 21 June 26 2027, end of 1300 days, end of “time. times and half time”, Jesus ends the abomination by throwing the beast and false prophet into the lake of fire, holy is restored
As this illustration points out, 1300 days explains “a time, times, and half time”, and vice versa. This also explains the 10 days of tribulation in Revelation 2:10. When Jesus returns on Sivan 11 2027, Satan shall intensify the persecution of the tribulation believers. These 10 days is the ultimate battle period between Christ and Satan, the 10 days between 1290 days Jesus returns and 1300 days end of abomination.
One more point I would like to make regarding the 42 months. God prophesied the beast shall have control for 42 months. These 42 months cannot be understood as our Gregorian 42 months. These 42 months are the biblical 42 months, or simply 3.5 biblical years. They begin with Kislev 21 in 2023 when the beast sets up the abomination. Adding 42 biblical months to that day, we come to Sivan 21 2027 as the end of it.
Kislev 21 Year X Abomination and desecration of temple ——- 42 biblical months ——- Sivan 21 Year X + 3.5 biblical years
Sivan 21 in 2027 is also the end of 42 months, 1300 days and “a time, times, and half time”. By illustrating this timeline, I have 42 months, 1300 days, and “a time,times and half time” all pointing to the same period.
September 23, 2019 at 4:30 pm #7598
From my previous post, I have rapture and tribulation begin on July 22 2020 which also falls on Av 1 in Jewish calendar. Rapture shall take place on a new moon.
The three shepherds war shall take place roughly one month before July 22 2020. My speculation is by June 2020 the tension shall intensify between Israel and Hezbollah, Hamas, Syria. Jordan shall join the war later. God cuts them off in one month. It takes us to July 22. Then bang, booms, God calls the church home. Hallelujah!!!!
September 23, 2019 at 4:31 pm #7599
In this timeline, the three shepherds war shall take place in summer. It goes in line with Isaiah 16:8-9 and Jeremiah 48:32.
Isaiah 16:8 For the fields of Heshbon languish, and the vine of Sibmah: the lords of the heathen have broken down the principal plants thereof, they are come even unto Jazer, they wandered through the wilderness: her branches are stretched out, they are gone over the sea.
9 Therefore I will bewail with the weeping of Jazer the vine of Sibmah: I will water thee with my tears, O Heshbon, and Elealeh: for the shouting for thy summer fruits and for thy harvest is fallen.
The key words are “for the shouting for thy summer fruits and for thy harvest is fallen”
Jeremiah 48:32 O vine of Sibmah, I will weep for thee with the weeping of Jazer: thy plants are gone over the sea, they reach even to the sea of Jazer: the spoiler is fallen upon thy summer fruits and upon thy vintage.
Again, “the spoiler is fallen upon thy summer fruits and upon thy vintage”.
These verses are judgment against Moab which is modern day Jordan. Since Jordan is one of the three shepherds, it places the three shepherds war in the season of summer.
September 26, 2019 at 2:44 pm #7644
Here’s a re-post of my thought on the mystery number 153 in John 21:11.
The number 153 consists of the number 3, 50 and 100. 3 represents the 3 days in crucifixion, burial and resurrection, or simply Nisan 14, 15, and 16. 50 days from first fruit Nisan 16 comes to Sivan 6. 100 days from Nisan 16 comes to Tammuz 26. There is a better illustration of these numbers in Leviticus 23:15, 16, with insertion of my thought for better understanding.
Leviticus 23:15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath ( the sabbath is Unleavened Bread Nisan 15, so the morrow after the sabbath is Nisan 16, this is also the number 3 in 153 ), from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete ( seven sabbath comes to Sivan 5 ): 16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath ( it is Sivan 6, represents by the number 50 in 153 ) shall ye number fifty days ( it comes to Tammuz 26, the number 100 in 153, that is, 100 days from Nisan 16 ) ; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.
Why would Jesus give us the mystery number 153? My answer is he wants us to know the correct counting of “days” in Leviticus 23:15-16, that is, Shavuot should fall on Tammuz 26, not the traditional view of Sivan 6. The offering should be held on Tammuz 26, not Sivan 6.
Does the number 153 have anything to do with his second coming? Since 153 represents all the fishes netted, and we understand fishes are the symbol of believers in Christ, my thought is 153 points to a date when all the believers (church era, tribulation believers, remnant of Israel) come together in Christ’s name, or in this case, Tammuz 26. On Tammuz 26 a special offering shall be made, Christ being the High Priest, with tribulation believers and the remnant of Israel being the two loaves of bread. This is why I place Tammuz 26 at the end of 1335 days, blessed is he who comes to this day.
September 26, 2019 at 2:57 pm #7645
Take 2020 to 2027 timeline for example. Tammuz 26 falls on July 31 in 2027. This is also the end of 1335 days. Subtract 45 days from July 31, we come to June 16 2027 as the end of 1290 days. Daniel was told the abomination can only last 1290 days, which means it will be cut short by Jesus’ second coming. Jesus shall return at the end of 1290 days. And since the tribulation can only last 2520 days, subtracting 2520 days from June 16 2027, we come to July 22 2020 as the beginning of tribulation and the rapture.
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