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    • #116416
      Yohanan
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        Carry on!

        Previous thread here.

      • #116355
        Yohanan
        Moderator

          This from Craig Bong’s fb page posted 6 hours ago:

          Possible much talked about 18th SDG in the making.
          The event, titled “Peace Day Effort for Middle East Peace,” will take place on Monday and is being put on by Saudi Arabia along with the Arab League and the European Union in cooperation with Egypt and Jordan, one of the diplomats said. UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres will be the keynote speaker.
          Neither the Israeli nor the Palestinian missions were invited to the event, the UN diplomat said, explaining that it is focused on congregating important global stakeholders on the issue in order to “reinvigorate” the peace process.
          The current hardline Israeli government led by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has refused to entertain the notion of peace talks with the Palestinian Authority, instead moving to radically expand Israel’s footprint in the West Bank. The PA supports a two-state solution, but its leadership is marred by charges of corruption and President Mahmoud Abbas was roundly criticized last week for a speech employing a range of antisemitic tropes. Both Netanyahu and Abbas will be at the UN next week.
          The event is the latest effort by Saudi Arabia to engage in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, as it negotiates with US President Joe Biden’s administration about a potential normalization agreement with Israel.
          Last week, Riyadh hosted a Palestinian Authority delegation to discuss how to leverage a normalization deal to advance the Palestinian cause.379254047_10230591749115928_3060123269804290238_n

        • #116357
          Geri9
          Member

            Thank you for posting Craig’s update!

             

            Okay…  talk about confusing ….

             

            Neither the Israeli nor the Palestinian missions were invited to the event, the UN diplomat said, explaining that it is focused on congregating important global stakeholders on the issue in order to “reinvigorate” the peace process.

            Then it says …

            Both Netanyahu and Abbas will be at the UN next week.

             

            :wacko:    I guess its a wait and see? :unsure:

          • #116359
            Yohanan
            Moderator

              The UN diplomat that said they would not be there may have not know. This could be a new development.

            • #116362
              Blue
              Member

                If the peace deal is part of the 7 year climate push, then maybe the deal is forced on them.  You agree to this or else.  He will confirm a covenant, enforce a covenant…. So exciting!!!!

              • #116381
                Geri9
                Member

                  WW65  Lisa’s update … Starts @ 9:27 marker – 16:29   for the Israeli news of what went on this past Wednesday.

                  More “Secret Meetings” with U.S., Gantz and Bennett about Saudi normalization

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                • #116395
                  Geri9
                  Member

                    Saudi Arabia Tells Israel That The ‘Price Of Peace’ Via The Abraham Accords Will Be The Creation Of The State Of Palestine Taken From Jewish Land
                     

                    NTEB

                    By Geoffrey Grider

                    Saudi Arabia has let the Biden administration know that resolving the Palestinian Two State Solution is critical for any Abraham Accords normalization deal with Israel, says Blinken

                    Today the proverbial ‘other shoe’ dropped and now all cards are on the table, 52 straight up, with regards to the true meaning and purpose behind the Abraham Accords covenant signed back in 2020. Now you can sign all the normalization deals you like, if Israel doesn’t sign with the ‘big cheese’ Saudi Arabia they won’t mean very much at all. But signing the Abraham Accords with the Saudis and Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman comes at a very steep cost. The price tag is the creation of a Palestinian state made from the land of Israel. Will it happen? Absolutely, 100% guaranteed if you believe the Bible. The Abraham Accords are now, and have always been,the ‘hook in the jaw’ to lure in Israel to a very wrong relationship with their stated enemies.

                    “For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem, I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.”Joel 3:1,2

                    “…In this house, and in Jerusalem, which I have chosen out of all tribes of Israel, will I put my name for ever:” 2 Kings 21:7

                     

                    Saudis say Palestinians must be part of Israel peace deal, says Blinken
                    From The JERUSALEM Post : “If Saudi-Israel normalization is to move forward, the Palestinian piece is going to be very important too,” US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said. “It is also clear from what we hear from the Saudis that if this process is to move forward the Palestinian piece is going to be very important too,” he said in an interview with the podcast “Pod Save the World.”

                    He spoke as the Biden administration has been increasingly public about its pursuit of a security pact with Saudi Arabia that would include a normalization deal with Israel. It’s expected that Israel would have to make concessions to the Palestinians as part of the deal. Such a deal would come on top of the US-backed 2020 Abraham Accords, in which Israel agreed to suspend the annexation of West Bank settlement in exchange for normalization deals with four Arab countries: the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Morocco, and Sudan.

                    Israeli normalization with the Arab world and “any of the efforts that are going on to improve relations between Israel and its neighbors can not be a substitute for Israel and the Palestinians resolving their differences and having a much better future for Palestinians,” Blinken said.

                    “In our judgment that needs to involve a two-state solution” to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, he explained.
                    Earlier this week National Security Advisor Tzahi Hanegbi said that the Palestinians had spoken with the US, the Saudis and Israelis about a significant Palestinian component to the deal.

                     

                    The Abraham Accords have always been about dividing Israel to create a state of Palestine
                    “The call for the establishment of an independent Palestinian state on the borders of 1967 with east Jerusalem as its capital in line with the relevant international resolutions and the Arab and international consensus will remain a firm demand,” Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed from United Arab Emirates said.

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                    Note:   Trying to connect the dots here … :popcorn  

                    This Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan (picture above) is the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the United Arab Emirates. He is a son of the founder of the United Arab Emirates, Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan. In 2020, he was a signatory of the Abraham Accords on behalf of the UAE. ;-)  

                    End time watcher, Craig Bong believes the peace agreement deal will be signed at the last day of COP28 meeting in the capital of United Arab Emirates, the city of Dubai, on 12/12/23. 

                     

                  • #116443
                    Patricia N.
                    Member

                      Israeli Defense Minister Reveals: Iran Building Air Base in Lebanon:

                      Israeli defense minister Yoav Gallant revealed Monday that Iran is building an air base in Lebanon with the purpose of targeting Israel.

                      The Times of Israel reported:
                      Speaking at an annual conference of the Institute for Counter-Terrorism Policy (ICT) at Reichman University in Herzliya, Gallant says the airport is being built in the Qalaat Jabbour mountain region.

                      “In the pictures, you can see the Iranian flag flying over the runways, from which the ayatollah regime plans to operate against the citizens of Israel,” Gallant says.

                      “In other words: The land is Lebanese, the control is Iranian, and the target is Israel,” Gallant says.
                      Iran is heavily involved in Lebanon through its proxy, the Shia terrorist group Hezbollah, which also participates in the Lebanese government.

                      https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/09/14/israeli-defense-minister-reveals-iran-building-air-base-in-lebanon/

                    • #116456
                      Patricia N.
                      Member

                        Israel‘s customs authority said on Thursday it found 16 tons of material used for rocket production during an inspection of a shipment from Turkey headed to Gaza:

                        The customs authority said it had stopped for inspection in July two containers carrying 54 tons of what were supposed to be bags of plaster.

                        A lab test confirmed some of the bags contained ammonium chloride, the authority added, which it said was used by groups in Gaza “to produce rockets that are eventually launched towards Israel.”

                        In Gaza, Hamas spokesman Hazem Qassem described the report as “lies.”

                        Israel Says It Found 16 Tons of Rocket-Making Substance Headed From Turkey to Gaza

                      • #116459
                        Geri9
                        Member

                          Starts @ 2:10    Lisa thinks the deal gets done in November … if so its just in time for the COP28 meetings November 30 – December 12, 2023 … for the signing

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                        • #116489
                          Geri9
                          Member

                            There is a summit in NY this week with the “Stan” nations … Biden is trying to put pressure on them to not side with Russia … well we know that will not happen or it backfires … because they do align themselves up with Russia for the  Gog/Magog attack.

                            Per Lisa starts @ 2:42

                            “Sleepy” will meet with Russia’s Defense Treaty Allies, trying to steer them to the side of the U.S.

                             

                            In the Comment Section:

                            This cracked me up

                            For goodness sake. He couldn’t negotiate his way out of a cardboard box.

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                            • #116491
                              Geri9
                              Member

                                Another thought here on this putting pressure on all the “Stan” nations to betray Russia and side with the U.S.  Bibi plans to be in NY for this summit this week.  Perhaps they will trick Bibi into agreeing with him … and he and Israel feel secure and especially when Saudi signs the peace agreement … they will think all is well … then after the rapture …. BAM the Gog / Magog attack happens?

                            • #116520
                              MyWhiteStone
                              Member

                                A Cornerstone in Zion

                                Isaiah 28:14-19 BSB

                                Therefore hear the word of the LORD, O scoffers who rule this people in Jerusalem. For you said, “We have made a covenant with death; we have fashioned an agreement with Sheol. When the overwhelming scourge passes through it will not touch us, because we have made lies our refuge and falsehood our hiding place.”

                                So this is what the Lord GOD says: “See, I lay a stone in Zion, a tested stone, a precious cornerstone, a sure foundation; the one who believes will never be shaken. I will make justice the measuring line and righteousness the level. Hail will sweep away your refuge of lies, and water will flood your hiding place.

                                Your covenant with death will be dissolved, and your agreement with Sheol will not stand. When the overwhelming scourge passes through, you will be trampled by it. As often as it passes through, it will carry you away; it will sweep through morning after morning, by day and by night.” The understanding of this message will bring sheer terror.

                                 

                              • #116585
                                Patricia N.
                                Member

                                  Shameful: UNESCO classifies ancient Jericho as ‘Palestinian heritage site’:

                                  The UNESCO member states decided that the tel will be considered a “Palestinian world heritage site.” The decision was made in a vote that took place in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. The UN clarified that there are Jewish and Christian sites near the site that are not included in the list – but there is a value to protect them.

                                  Tel a-Sultan, also known as Tel Jericho, is the central tel in the city. It sits at 21 meters above its surroundings and is 40 dunams wide. It includes many archaeological findings, including the round tower of Jericho, which is 8.50 meters wide, and what remains of it is 7.70 meters tall. The first settlement of the tel is estimated to be in 9500 BCE.

                                  The Israeli Foreign Ministry was infuriated by the decision, which, according to them, was made despite the many true efforts by UNESCO Director-General Audrey Azoulay, and stated that they “see the decision as another sign of the Palestinians’ cynical use of UNESCO and the politicization of the organization. Israel will work with its many allies in the organization to change the distorted decisions that were made.”

                                  https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/377087

                                • #116586
                                  Patricia N.
                                  Member

                                    Saudi Arabia halts talks on peace deal with Israel:

                                    Saudi-owned outlet attributes Riyadh’s withdrawal to Netanyahu government’s “extremist” stance towards Palestinians.

                                    By World Israel News Staff
                                    In a significant setback to normalizing ties between Saudi Arabia and Israel, the government in Riyadh has reportedly informed the Biden administration that it was suspending all related discussions, an Israeli official from the Prime Minister’s Office revealed to the London-based Saudi news outlet Elaph on Sunday.

                                    The Arab news medium, which is viewed by many as a public broadcaster for Jerusalem and Riyadh, cited the anonymous official as blaming Israel’s “extremist” government led by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Saudi Arabia also expressed concerns that the current Israeli government is obstructing a peace process with the Palestinians.

                                    According to the report, Israel was “confused” by the move, after expressing that a normalization deal with Saudi Arabia would not be contingent on resolving the Palestinian question.

                                    Saudi Arabia halts talks on peace deal with Israel – report

                                    • #116590
                                      Geri9
                                      Member

                                        Actually the article of “Saudi Arabia suspends peace talk” is fake news ….  Lisa WW65 did a YouTube  2 days ago and read it and said “this sounds fake”  and sure enough she mentioned yesterday it wasn’t true and a hoax.

                                         

                                        The peace talks are really happening … Per Times of Israel and EEAS Europe.EU news …

                                         

                                        Starts @ 1:40

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                                    • #116587
                                      Patricia N.
                                      Member

                                        First-ever ‘National Prayer For Life’ event in Israel to protect unborn babies to be held this Friday:

                                        JERUSALEM, ISRAEL – One of the most heartbreaking things that Lynn and I have discovered since we began visiting Israel as a family in 2003, and then became Israeli citizens in 2014, is just how widely accepted abortion is as a form of birth control.  And the number of unborn babies that have been murdered here over the past 75 years.

                                        Abortion was first legalized by the Knesset – Israel’s parliament – in 1977.  However, illegal abortions have been performed in Israel since the foundation of the state.

                                        Conservative estimates indicate that at least 800,000 abortions have taken place in Israel since 1948.  Other estimates put the number at 2 million or more.

                                        Today, however, I want to report some good news.  On Friday, Evangelical and Messianic Jewish leaders of Israel’s small but important pro-life movement are gathering in central Israel to pray for the unborn.  They are calling on Israeli pastors, ministry leaders and lay people to join them.

                                        While there have been smaller pro-life prayer gatherings over the years, organizers are describing this as the first-ever “National Prayer for Life” event to pray for the unborn, as well as for the communities surrounding them.

                                        What’s more, they are urging churches and congregations – both Jewish and Arab – to pray for the 10 days leading up to Yom Kippur, for the Lord to protect unborn children and to change the hearts of Israeli leaders – and the broader Israeli society – to create a culture honoring the sanctity of life, beginning at conception.

                                        https://allisrael.com/israel-s-first-ever-national-prayer-for-life-event-to-protect-unborn-babies-to-be-held-this-friday

                                         

                                      • #116620
                                        Terry
                                        Member

                                          Hoo, boy, we’re in a heap of trouble boys.  And girls.
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                                          • #116623
                                            Geri9
                                            Member

                                              Sad news for the left behind … but … man oh man this means our Blessed Hope one way ticket Flight to sweet Beulah Land is on the horizon for us!!! :yahoo:

                                              • #116636
                                                Sonya
                                                Member

                                                  WOW! A call for a division for Israel! Wait isn’t that what is supposed to happen? A call for a division? But Israel won’t be divided obviously! :) Then what? Then we go up? :)

                                            • #116624
                                              Geri9
                                              Member

                                                Lisa  Watchwoman65  did an update …

                                                She said tomorrow Bibi will be in the meeting talks.

                                                 

                                              • #116828
                                                Patricia N.
                                                Member

                                                  From Amir Tsarfati’s e-mail newsletter:

                                                  Saudi Crown Prince MBS Says Every Day Brings Normalization with Israel Closer:

                                                  In a truly amazing interview with Brett Baier of Fox News, Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman denied reports that normalization talks with Israel had stalled. “Every day we get closer. It seems it’s for the first time a real one – serious. We get to see how it goes,” said the de facto leader of the nation. Much will depend on negotiations over the Palestinians. MBS said that he wanted to see “a good life for the Palestinians,” but he stopped short of demanding a two-state solution. While most of the negotiations are taking place behind closed doors, there is the occasional leak. One such bit of leaked news is momentous if true. The Saudis are very concerned over the possibility of Iran going nuclear, with MBS saying that if it were to happen then Saudi Arabia would “have to get one, for security reasons, for balancing power.” Now, the Wall Street Journal is reporting that a secretive deal is being discussed between Israeli officials and the Biden administration for the establishment of a U.S.-run uranium enrichment facility in Saudi Arabia as part of the normalization deal.

                                                   

                                                • #116861
                                                  Geri9
                                                  Member

                                                    Starts @ 2:14

                                                    We could very well be raptured on “sleepy’s” watch … things are heating up, real fast.

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                                                  • #116911
                                                    Geri9
                                                    Member

                                                      Starts @ 2:00

                                                      According to this speech Bibi just gave at the General Assembly, the rapture is closer than ever

                                                       

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                                                    • #116913
                                                      Yohanan
                                                      Moderator

                                                        Interesting point she makes that if Trump were in office none of this would be happening. So true!

                                                      • #116969
                                                        Geri9
                                                        Member

                                                          About 22 minutes from Pastor James Kaddis’ take on what Bibi said

                                                          Israel Just Made History At The United Nations!!!

                                                           

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                                                        • #116973
                                                          Patricia N.
                                                          Member

                                                            Amir Tsarfati:

                                                            Israeli Foreign Minister Eli Cohen revealed:
                                                            Six or seven Muslim nations will join Saudi Arabia in making peace with Israel.
                                                            ……….

                                                            Congo Becomes Latest Country to Announce Moving Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.
                                                            ………..

                                                            https://t.me/s/beholdisraelchannel

                                                             

                                                          • #117031
                                                            Patricia N.
                                                            Member

                                                              Foreign-policy expert: ‘Israel and Saudis have already normalized’:

                                                              “Israel and Saudi have already normalized. When the formal agreement comes is anyone’s guess,” wrote Jonathan Schanzer of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.

                                                              “It will be a thrill to see. But that signing ceremony matters less when ties are already deep and maturing,” he wrote.

                                                              Netanyahu’s talk at the United Nations was reportedly carried live on Saudi television—the first time that has occurred with an address by an Israeli prime minister.

                                                              Foreign-policy expert: ‘Israel and Saudis have already normalized’

                                                            • #117034
                                                              Geri9
                                                              Member

                                                                14 minute clip from Nelson Walters    This was made 3 weeks ago …  sooo 24 more days before this happens? :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn

                                                                Heifer in 45 DAYS? When You See THIS, Know The Tribulation is Near

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                                                              • #117035
                                                                Yohanan
                                                                Moderator

                                                                  So many things coming together at the same time, even details like this. Amazing story about these heifers!

                                                                  • #117039
                                                                    Geri9
                                                                    Member

                                                                      I agree with him they are probably going to do the sacrifice in October 2023 vs. waiting to Passover, 2024.

                                                                      However, Nelson has the tribulation starting Sept 2024 with the covenant signing.

                                                                      I think it happens in December 2023 …  Nelson is not a pre-tribber so not sure why he has it a year from now?

                                                                      Will the church be here to see the heifer sacrifice or should we be gone before that?

                                                                  • #117041
                                                                    Yohanan
                                                                    Moderator

                                                                      I just got done watching a series of Nelson’s videos and he does believe the covenant will be signed in Sept 2024. One thing to remember is that the Trib does not need to begin the day the rapture happens.  I am not ready to sell out 2023 with so many potential dates ahead of us but if we are still here for Christmas then I will look towards 2024. I’ve said before, I do not believe we will be here for the 2024 election. I seriously doubt there will be a 2024 election.

                                                                    • #117044
                                                                      Yohanan
                                                                      Moderator

                                                                        I just got done watching Nelson’s Noah’s Flood and End Time Prophecy video but stopped about halfway through. It just doesn’t make sense to me that Jesus will return BEFORE the Trumpet Judgements. Maybe its just because I’m tired and am not getting it but it sounds off to me.

                                                                      • #117045
                                                                        KolleenWStone
                                                                        Moderator


                                                                          Tens of thousands at Western Wall for final Slihot before Yom Kippur

                                                                           

                                                                        • #117383
                                                                          Geri9
                                                                          Member

                                                                            The Prophets Declare That Israel Will Be Divided Through A Peace Covenant, We See This Happening Right Now!

                                                                            September 27, 2023
                                                                            By Geoffrey Grider

                                                                             

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                                                                            We are watching Israel and the Jews doing exactly what the prophets thousands of years ago said they would do, and it is stunning to see

                                                                            We are living in astonishing times, watching what the prophets said would be taking place in Israel and the Middle East in the last days. Only one problem, the prophets said these things 2,000 to 3,500 years ago, and Israel was only regathered a mere 75 years ago! What are the chances of that working out as planned? As it turns out, 100%.

                                                                            “And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days.” Genesis 49:1

                                                                            On this episode of Rightly Dividing, there are a few things you need to make peace with right off the bat. Israel will sign a covenant that requires the dividing of the land for peace and material prosperity. The Abraham Accords has turbocharged that, but there is also the Arab Peace Initiative. So Israel will be divided, they will be scattered, and Jerusalem will be destroyed by the armies of Antichrist. Jews love to say “never again!”, but the prophets say “one more time”. And brother, what a time it’s going to be. Right now, the headlines are filled to overflowing with stories declaring that the Two State Solution is about to happen, and guess what? It is! On this episode we show you all this, and much more, from the pages of your King James Bible and from the headlines.

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                                                                          • #117421
                                                                            Geri9
                                                                            Member

                                                                              Starts @ 2:26

                                                                               

                                                                              More proof that the church cannot be present for the GREAT tribulation. God will deal with Israel

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                                                                              • #117422
                                                                                Yohanan
                                                                                Moderator

                                                                                  And we will be out of here very soon!!! GREAT video!

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