Part 1 of “50 Reasons Why Pentecost is Tied to the Rapture” (#1-25)

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    • #16328
      Watchman35
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      Brother Chooch  and Keegan from TOL End Times YouTube channel give us some encouragement as to why a Pentecost rapture is entirely within the realm of possibility–maybe even more towards likely than possible imho.  (He better hurry with part 2, or it may be a moot point, if you catch my drift…:)

       

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    • #16329
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Again, a lot of typology’s to glean through.

      We might come up with a thousand reasons in our study of God’s word why we settle on one Feast day over another.

      We still wouldn’t have 100% proof.

      As such my heart, turned to my best option.  Looking for divine disclosure from the Lord!

      The closest we can rely upon is I believe is the Holy Spirit’s leading!  Indeed we are still guessing at the season and the year!

      I just can’t put my complete trust in nor invest assuredly in guesswork!  I am indeed sure that I shall live to see my redemption!

      As this is what was promised me by the word of the Lord!

      TR

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    • #16330
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Therefore, I can only ask:  today Lord?!

      TR

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    • #16337
      Yohanan
      Moderator

      Interesting and compelling video. It would be interesting to see all the Feasts examined in this same way. Do others or all have as many compelling arguments.

      I enjoyed the bit of humor he did with the dial up modem sounds :)

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      • #16346
        Watchman35
        Participant

        Yes, brother Chooch has been known to interject a unique sense of humor in his videos.  Lol.

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    • #16350
      MyWhiteStone
      Moderator

      This Steve Monette video is interesting.  He provides his firm belief that is the same as our friend 2ndcoming has written a lot about a lot since last Fall.  The proposal is about a first count of fifty days to (Sivan 6) – i.e., today, that then kicks off a second count of fifty days.  Read all about it in Leviticus 23.  Steve Monette counts 102 days (more or less) total related to Moses at Sinai, thereby placing the true Pentecost about July (19 or so) this year.  Steve denies that this must be the year, but adamantly asserts that the Rapture will occur on some year’s Pentecost.

      For me another enticing fact for the proposed fifty days later date is that Sivan 6 (around now) is too early for “new wine” that the speakers in tongues were accused of having drunk, to even have been available.  In seven more weeks, though, the new wine would have been available.  Just more plausible re this detail.

       

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    • #16352
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Another fine example of how elusive picking a day or hour is!

      Who’s right?  Who do you believe? Can we even trust Jewish scholars or Rabbi’s?

      TR

       

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      • #16356
        Geri7
        Participant

        Great youtube, Dan. :good:     This is probably why none of us are feeling it yet for the event to occur this weekend.  So we have until  late July around the 19th for Pentecost … which lands on a Sunday. :mail:

        I believe the church hast to be out of here before the roll-out of the vaccines. I think they are pushing the timeline to be around this October so this is why I’m personally looking up for the rapture to occur this year. :popcorn

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    • #16354
      2ndcoming
      Blocked

      My belief of another 50 days after the seven sabbaths was shaken after I had a dream a while ago. In that dream I saw the date April 15, and I recognized April 15 has to do with Jesus’ second coming. I also saw me going through another Chinese year which is Feb 12 2021. So the timeline of 2020 to 2027 doesn’t work for me since I shall still be here in Feb 2021. So I take 2021 to 2028 timeline, and placed April 15 in the year 2028. I found out that April 15 2028 happens to be First Fruit in Jewish calendar. If my dream has any merit, it points to Jesus returning on April 15 First Fruit in 2028. When I subtract 2520 days from April 15 2028, I come to May 22 2021 which is the Pentecost. May 22 Pentecost is very likely the day for rapture. So my belief of adding 50 days to the seven sabbaths has been changed. I give credit to my dream which has changed my thought of when Pentecost should be. It should be on a Sunday which is seven sabbaths after First Fruit which is on Sunday also. But like I said few times before, I need the three shepherds war in this summer to confirm my timeline which is;

      Rapture, Pentecost May 22/23 2021 ———— 2520 days ————— Second Coming of Jesus, First Fruit April 15/16 2028

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    • #16426
      MyWhiteStone
      Moderator

      Well for whatever it’s worth, 2ndcoming, and I haven’t been through his arguments that Pentecost is the only possible option, simply not knowing which year, (lots of other people smart people remain adamant about Feast of Trumpets, and you now about next Spring), yet Steve Monet remains adamant about Pentecost.

      So maybe my post here is just another personal mind-game strategy to avoid disappointment this coming Monday.  So if we’re still here Monday I’ll have a logical defensible credible near-term square to advance my token to.  A la Monopoly…  Oy vey!  Maranatha!!!  Please, Jesus.

      You know, it never occurred to me before now that maybe we could pose the Rapture date question to the Sanhedrin’s new high priest and have him use the breastplate, the Urim and the Thummim.  We could pose the question to the Jews in stealth mode by asking if the Messiah will for sure come in July.  Never mind.  That may be the worst idea I ever had.  Forgive me, Lord.  :prayer-hands:

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    • #16429
      tenderreed
      Participant

      <p style=”text-align: center;”>Good idea!  TR</p>

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    • #16442
      Watchman35
      Participant

      It is impossible for me to find the proper words that could adequately express the depth of my desire to be harpazoed today and done here with life in this broken, fallen world (sun has already gone down in Jerusalem as of the time of this post, so it is May 31 Pentecost in Israel).

      The untold variety of evil where man wastes his God-given creative genius to defecate on the world God created, the hatred of God, the reprobate/delusional minds that fancy themselves as self-righteous heroes when in fact they cannot even discern between right and wrong, the unanswered (for now) sin that overflows like a backed up sewer of filth, the looters, the liars, the vandals, the murderers, the thieves, the immoral, the globalists, the vaccinators, the myriad of “everyday” problems, the heartache, the broken relationships, the sickness, the pain, the anguish of soul, the financial difficulties, the decaying bodies, the tears, the sorrow, the loneliness, the unreliability of people, the collapsing economy.  Lord, it feels like so much more than enough.  ENOUGH!!  Please, come get us soon.  Groaning in my spirit.  Maranatha!!!

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    • #16446
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Amen and amen to that!  Groaning and screaming here!

      Save Oh Lord, SAVE US from ourselves for Yourself!  We won’t feel like a bride until You come for us!

      We have lived on Your promise for two thousand years Lord.  We desperately need to see it’s fulfillment!

      TR

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    • #16448
      2ndcoming
      Blocked

      Jesus says no one knows the day and hour. All we have done here is purely speculation, including my dream of April 15 for Second Advent. But I believe God has left us a clue as how close we are to rapture. That clue is the three shepherds war in Zechariah 11. I expect this war shall break out in this summer. When I see this war coming, I shall get very excited, knowing that rapture is near.

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    • #16459
      Humbly Irrelevant
      Participant

      Watchman35:

       

      I was moved by what you wrote, I was able to empathize and internalize what you said to a deeper level.  I hope you don’t mind, but I took all of your words and I reformatted them into the only music that I have the ability to create (poetry).   I didn’t change much, and I only rearranged as necessary to give justice to the narrative that you created.  I give you full credit for the text and the context– no plagiarism here. :amen:

       

      The Groaning In Our Spirits

       

      The untold variety of evil,

      Where God-given creative genius was wasted by man,

      To defecate on the world God created,

      Started shortly after the world began.

       

      The hatred of God,

      The reprobate/delusional mind,

      That fancies itself as a self-righteous hero,

      Cannot fathom that it is totally blind!

       

      In fact, this evil mind that cannot discern between right and wrong,

      Overflows like filth in a backed-up sewer,

      The looters, the liars, the vandals, the murderers,

      Only get happier while Christians get continually get bluer.

       

      The thieves, the immoral, the globalists, the vaccinators,

      The heartache, the broken relationships, the sickness, the pain,

      The myriad of “everyday” problems that anguish our souls,

      Only Illuminate the evil that we all disdain.

       

      The financial difficulties, the decaying bodies, the collapsing economy, the tears,

      The loneliness, the unreliability of people, and the anguishing sorrow,

      Lord, it feels like so much more than enough,

      ENOUGH!!  Please, come get us by tomorrow!

       

      I feel that, and I long for that!

      Humbly

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    • #16478
      bgkimbr
      Participant

      Part 2 – 26-50.

       

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    • #16480
      Watchman35
      Participant

      Sunset in Jerusalem ending the day today is 739 PM local time.  1139 AM CDT in USA.  If today is being viewed as Pentecost and today ends the age of grace with the harpazo, there are about 5 1/2 hours left before the day ends.  Maranatha!!!

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    • #16496
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Either today or Jul 19th.  SUMMER IS NEAR!  TR

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    • #16500
      tenderreed
      Participant

      As stated, either today or on a more accurate accounting of Pentecost, July 19th.  But there may be a third option!

      This morning about two hours ago, my wife approached me with the request of her leaving for three days to go out into the wilderness/camping with a friend for three days.

      It got me to thinking about the phrase, “three days”.  I have been looking for a three day high sign for years.

      My first thought was of the prophet Joel.  Saying we would be raised on the third day!  Then also as like with Christ also being raised on the third day!

      And the many mention of three days in scripture!

      Lazerus was raised on the fourth day.

      In all cases, the raising happened after the fact.

      If we then can agree that the Rapture is associated with Pentecost, what about the third day after Pentecost?!

      Perhaps this could also be a very real possibility!  Humm

      So then Pentecost being equated with the Rapture, therefore three days after might hold some promise!

      TR

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    • #16503
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Bump, may have some importance!  TR

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    • #16504
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Which also brings us to Wednesday!  TR

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    • #16520
      Lee Giblin
      Participant

      Interesting!   There was also a 5 Doves letter today with a 7 day wait as in the days of Noah.

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    • #16537
      2ndcoming
      Blocked

      Well, It’s June 1, Pentecost is officially over. If not this year, may be rapture shall happen on Pentecost next year. I still believe the church shall witness the fourth transgression before the rapture. This Pentecost gave us so much hope. But God may think otherwise.

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    • #16540
      Geri7
      Participant

      Wait … not so fast … Pentecost is not “officially” over with yet …. we still need to stay alert :popcorn  for the 3 day wait that T.R mention as well as the :popcorn  7 day wait Lee Giblin mentions.  And then, if still here next week … we focus on the Steve Monet theory Dan posted above … about counting  102  (more days) which related to Moses going back up Mt Sinai to receive the 2nd tablets since he broke the first ones …  thereby placing the true Pentecost about :popcorn  Sunday, July 19th this year.

       

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    • #16544
      tenderreed
      Participant

      It seems that the Lord is sharpening our focus here.  Perhaps a new heavenly language is in our near future?!

      Pentecost still looms large!  And 2020 as well.  For as they say, it ain’t over till the fat lady sings.

      A new song to be sung!  Accompanied by a trumpet!

      TR

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    • #16550
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Speaking of fat ladies, Kate Smith and Mamma Cass have already left the building!  Oh my, what shall we do!

      TR

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      • #16561
        Watchman35
        Participant

        “And no one’s getting fat except Mama Cass.”   Lol…

         

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      • #16571
        Geri7
        Participant

        She had a great singing voice.  I love their song “Dancing in the Streets”  … hopefully soon we all will be “dancing on golden streets”   :whistle:

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    • #16551
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Maybe, Pentecost is our 3 day high sign?!

      TR

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    • #16552
      MyWhiteStone
      Moderator

      So I found posted by Chance at 5Doves, a link referring back to Steve Monette’s April 25 video concerning his proposed July (fourth month) Pentecost argument.  These points are interesting.  Steve states that he isn’t going to be dogmatic about this because he could be wrong, yet he doesn’t think he is.  So my token remains advanced to the fourth month, July.  We’ve missed the Sivan 6 window.  :cry:

      And I had so hoped to avoid all that hot weather.  If he’s right, maybe we’ll still be able to miss a lot of it.  I hope I hope I hope…  :prayer-hands: :prayer-hands: :prayer-hands:

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    • #16566
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Interesting that again we near Summer!  We shall see.  At least three accounting put us in June!  We shall see, or not see as the case may be!

      I agree that we cannot trust rabbinical accounting for many reasons.  This I have questioned for some time.

      I also say we have to hear from God, and not man.  Listening to the Holy Spirit as our guide which will teach us all things!

      High sign, or not!  TR

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    • #16572
      tenderreed
      Participant

      This brother mentioned that Pentecost was the only Feast day which required a peace offering!
      Christ who was the only acceptable sacrifice accepted by the Father also before leaving said:  My peace I give unto you!

      TR

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