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May 10, 2022 at 8:52 am #98744
Anonymous
We often speculate if we will be given a 10 day, 7 day, 3 day or even day before heads up warning when the rapture is about to occur.
I am on the fence about this and think it could go either way according to God’s purpose, but there is some Biblical precedent so I do think it is possible – whether we get one or not I don’t know – but for the purposes of this thread and what I would like input/ opinions on is this:
If we do get a rapture warning – what does that look like?
When Billy Graham died a few years ago many took that as some sort of a warning and if we saw Damascus destroyed tomorrow – many I am sure would see that as some kind of warning. Damascus would carry more weight because it is Biblical prophecy – but the point I am trying to get at is if we look to the Bible for our example – the Biblical example does not appear to be anything like what we speculate on today.
The Biblical example always seems to be a direct warning through a prophet, not a sign to speculate on. But what would that look like today? Most of the time when someone claims to be a prophet today they are summarily dismissed as a quack or nutter.
If someone claimed to be a prophet and said that the rapture was going to happen in 7 days we would all feel pretty certain that person was nuts I think. With one exception.
The only way I think that this would be valid is if such a person could perform a sign like the Old Testament prophets did to validate thier message – do you agree? I don’t even know if we could rely upon another correct prediction to validate a rapture warning. What if someone came foreward and said “one week from now Damascus will be destroyed and 2 weeks from now is the rapture” and supposed it came to pass that one week later Damascus was destroyed – does that make that person a prophet or just good at “reading the tea leaves” of military intelligence.
So what do you think it looks like if we get any sort of a heads up? What should we even be looking for if anything?
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May 10, 2022 at 9:39 am #98749
As I have often said and long maintained, an unarguable divine disclosure deposited into our spirits simultaneously!
For each and every saint to be raptured! A divine disclosure of knowledge! Bypassing any individual lest any be exalted above another!
Accommodating God’s heart of disclosure and crowning the spirit of prophecy (Christ)!
As has long been God’s m. o. Also being a loving and personal gift to the Bride of Christ!
TR
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May 10, 2022 at 9:42 am #98750
Also imitating traditional Jewish wedding scenario! An entourage escorting the bridegroom towards his bride with much celebration and with joyful noise!
TR
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May 10, 2022 at 10:48 am #98751
Well … I picture the rapture happening this way (but I’m not dogmatic about it)
The twinkling of the eye is only the changing of the bodies and the flying away is much slower process for ALL to see … just like in this passage …
Acts 1:11 Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
1. The Lord Jesus will descend from the clouds
2. He will give a shout out
3. The dead in Christ rise first … the graves will be opened … just like at the time of the crucifixion and there was an earthquake … but the bodies of the believers didn’t rise until AFTER Jesus rose from the grave. Then … they walked about and appeared unto many (to the people they knew).
4. Notice the colon symbol after the word first: That means there is a pause of how much time?
5. So I’m wondering if our relatives suddenly appear at our door and actually ring or knock on our doors and say its time to go! 😉 Then we are instantly changed too and we rise together to meet Jesus in the clouds?
6. Or when its our time (alive and remain group) we are quickly changed and fly up to meet each other in the clouds. Either way … let’s go!
Matthew 27:52-53. And the graves were opened — Some of the tombs were shattered and laid open by the earthquake, and doubtless continued open all the sabbath, since the law would not allow of any attempt to close them on that day: but the dead bodies which were in them did not come to life till Christ’s resurrection had taken place, and they appeared unto many (those they knew personally). (Benson Commentary -Fair Use -)
I Thess 4:16-17
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
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May 10, 2022 at 11:11 am #98752
Again also, Israel was given marching orders 3 day before crossing over the Jordon!
3 days in the belly of a whale! 3 days was Christ in the grave! Lazerus was dead 3 days and raised on the 4th!!Any advance warning from God would not alter events of the Rapture!!! But only enhance them!
Yet it is still a great wonderment to me that as we chase knowledge of the Rapture in the smallest of details and dissect the word and history of God that this concept of an advance warning provided by God himself, has garnered so little attention and even disdain!
Again, I am at a great loss in my Spirit to reconcile the level of fear and belief!!!!!
TR
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May 10, 2022 at 2:21 pm #98757
Again, I am at a great loss in my Spirit to reconcile the level of fear and belief!!!!!
My belief is no one is in fear of the 3 day concept. It’s more a simple matter of whether an individual *believes it or not, or that *either way, it isn’t a concern for them.
That isn’t fear! For either of those reasons, it may be a discussion that some don’t wish to enter in to. The simplicity of looking up – waiting to hear that shout from our Lord, may be the greater longing for them.
Heeding a 3 day warning may not be a concern to many because it isn’t written. What many or most may be relying on is their simple Faith Hope and Joy in the promised rapture alone, however it occurs.
God gave us a written biblical description and possibly most saints have greater spiritual peace in taking Him for His Word as written, which is enough. Where trust in that alone, is greater to them than concern over a 3 day warning that is not promised and remains uncertain.
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May 10, 2022 at 2:42 pm #98758
I sensed a shift in “the force” starting the beginning of May. Not just believers but the world in general, like we turned a final corner and are on the last lap. We are seeing the takeover of our countries, health, speech, etc that was going to happen in 2030 moved up to 2023 – in other words 6 months!
I have thought for years that as the Body of Christ we would ALL know the “time” of Jesus’ return for us. In my years of study I think we need to watch the signs in the earth and sky. We’ve seen an increase of earthquakes and solar signs. I’m hoping for a Full Moon rapture at midnight Jerusalem time. Will we get a 3 day warning? All I can think of is the bridesmaids waiting and hearing the horns of the parade coming near. I think we will ALL hear His coming, will it be 10, 3, or 1 day I’m not sure but I keep checking here to see if anyone is getting a “Word from the Lord” with others getting it also.
Hope to see you all soon! Lee
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May 10, 2022 at 2:46 pm #98759
As such, I have refused to present a formal teaching! But rather a simple what if proposition!
Even so, given our predaliction for undrstanding prophecy and as much effort as is given on this site to that end, I don’t understand what anyone’s fear could be based upon???
It simply doesn’t make sense?!
If it does happen I will give thanks, and if it doesn’t, I will give thanks!
TR
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May 10, 2022 at 2:56 pm #98760
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All good stuff so far – I will concur with TR if all of us got the same “download” from the Holy Spirit all at once – that sure would be an unmistakeable sign – but if that happens who among us would be so bold as to admit it first?!?!?! Lol! I know I would probably refrain and think everyone is not going to believe this.
The only issue is that I can’t find where anything like that ever happened in the Bible, so that would seem to be a brand new thing. As far as I know any warnings given in the Bible came through a prophet or spokesman of some kind, nevertheless if the scenario TR suggested were to happen as a new thing, it would be unmistakable.
Also considering what Geri and Kolleen said as well, I do wonder if there is a delay in between the “glorification/new body” and the actual catching up as Geri said, which does seem to have a little bit of scriptural precedent from the scriptures that Geri cited, yet along the lines of what Kolleen was talking about, I wonder if an obvious warning not only to the church but also to unbelievers, (if the saints were glorified prior to rapture, thus providing a small warning even to the unbelieving world) would violate God’s method of letting people believe by faith alone and not by sight.
It seems like the Bible alludes to at our removal there will be a strong deception among unbelievers, so how will the unbelievers be so easily deceived if it is extremely obvious that we are glorified before we vanish? These are just the things I ponder, I could really go either way, because I will readily admit I have no idea how God is going to do the play by play on this one. But I am enjoying reading all of your thoughts on this one.
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May 10, 2022 at 2:57 pm #98761
I don’t understand TR, how you determine the saints are fear-based if they don’t discuss a 3 day warning??
I thought I just spent several minutes commenting on “why” siblings might have a whole different viewpoint – not to be ignored – and far from fears!
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May 10, 2022 at 3:01 pm #98762
The Apostle Paul told the Thessalonians that the lawless one would be revealed after the restrainer was removed. He was telling them that things they see going on around them would be their notification. We see the effects of lawlessness happening now more that ever. We should be watching the things going on around us. The whole 2020 election was lawless and that lawlessness is seen as lies coming from the government, the media and big corporations.
What are we seeing? We see Trump and his followers saying things that parallel what we know to be truth. There is a convergence of such between what we know to be of God and what we know to be of man. “Your kingdom come your will be done on earth as it is in heaven”. We can see that convergence is happening now. Paul told us to wake up, Trump’s followers are saying the same thing, wake up. Paul said to be ready, Trump’s followers are saying to be ready. Paul said we are children of the light, Trump’s followers say to expect 10 days of darkness. Even now with Trump’s truth coming out they are saying the darkness will happen very soon. We can feel that Jesus is coming for us very soon. Our eyes are not to be fixed on Trump, but on Jesus. We know that Jesus is using Trump and has been since Trump was born 70 years, 7 months, and 7 days before he took the office of President of the United States. We can see the happenings around Trump and can understand it’s God who is in control. I think it is very exciting to watch what is going on. I feel that our blessed hope is very close, any day now.You need to login in order to like this post: click here
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May 10, 2022 at 5:34 pm #98765
Thank you for the comfort Rick.
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May 10, 2022 at 6:41 pm #98772
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I totally agree Rick, the abundance of general signs of the times are out there giving us very good reason to look up. I can easily see conditions lining up for seals 1-6 opening over the next few months. War. Inflation with food shortages appararently imminent. Widespread death possible by an experimental therapy that many participated in. Reports of the poles moving by 5 miles per month predicting a total pole shift no later than a year from now could very easily be a indicator of 6th seal events. The facts are there and general signs abound. I guess what I was wondering is will we get anything more than this, as in a specific sign or message? And what would that look like?
In the past such warnings were issued by prophets, but maybe not in the church age because all believers are filled with he Holy Spirit, so maybe there will be no one prophet with that singular message, since the Spirit is in all true believers, in that regard, maybe TR’s speculation could hold some weight . And maybe there will be no warning, who knows? I have often joked, a little warning would be nice because it would be nice not to be in the shower or in the restroom when it happens – that would be awkward!
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May 10, 2022 at 6:43 pm #98773
Anonymous
And point of clarity to above – if we see the conditions for the seals to open soon, obviously we are outta here before then, lest anyone take that the wrong way.
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May 10, 2022 at 9:21 pm #98779
2 Timothy 4:18 – “Now there is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day—and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for his appearing.”
If the Christians who are actively watching and longing for Jesus’ appearance are going to be rewarded with a crown, maybe they will also be the ones who will be granted the privilege of a forewarning of Jesus’ arrival, although I don’t know how long beforehand – maybe a few hours or minutes?? I imagine that He wouldn’t grant that privilege to the Christians who aren’t watching and longing for His appearance, and who even don’t want it to happen for a long time or maybe not at all – they would prefer to live out their earthly lives to old age and hope that the Rapture won’t interrupt it. So they would not react well to a sudden heads-up that the Rapture is about to happen and that would be insulting to Jesus. But the watchers would rejoice!
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May 10, 2022 at 9:45 pm #98780
who like me feels strongly about the following:
that the lockdowns, lack of entertainment, spectator sports,………………was used by God to get people’s attention cause the hour is really late. People are always distracted with entertainment, sports and other stuff and all that was shut off for an extended period of time to get people to think of other stuff.
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May 11, 2022 at 7:29 am #98804
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I totally agree with you Heidi, when the lockdowns and all of that started happening a couple of years ago I could almost feel something stirring in the spirit as if a division were happening – it was as if God was trying to tell people- time to get serious and as if He was dividing those who are serious about Him from the unbelievers and even the make believers.
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May 10, 2022 at 11:21 pm #98786
It woke some people up. Some got saved by getting online to try to figure out what was going on, but others just got sucked further in to the deception.
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May 11, 2022 at 9:56 pm #98847
I don’t think we are going to get a specific warning just prior to the rapture, but I believe we already have been given a huge heads up! It is amazing that the Ritan Facebook site has grown so quickly to 44,000 members over the last couple years. It seems that the Lord has truly grown this site which makes me further believe that we are on the right track. We watchers are blessed to know the truth and to be able to share our faith on this site.
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May 11, 2022 at 11:45 pm #98850
One reason the Facebook RN grew and is growing fast in this last year, is that Facebook changed some things to where anyone wanting to register, only needs to make a preview comment on any post before we mods have approved them – and Facebook calls those people automatic “members.” Not easy to explain, but it is causing rapid growth. So, a good portion is Facebooks doing, which we wade through daily for proper registrations.
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May 12, 2022 at 7:36 am #98854
Anonymous
Well again – not a specific “sign” indicating “the date” but if you want more general signs of the times to look to, I came across this really good article in my email inbox this morning. It gives a review of more conditions present pointing to our soon departure. My chief takeaways are that Israel is closer than ever to two things: Rebuilding the Temple and war. They are cutting the cornerstones for the temple it is being reported and there is an operation that recently began on Israel’s birthday (according to the Jewish calendar and runs through Pentecost called “Chariots of Fire”. I am still hoping for a Second Passover departure this weekend, but maybe this is a sign that our “chariots of fire” will come for us on Pentecost – who knows? Here is a link to the article I was referencing-
https://www.unsealed.org/2022/05/chariots-of-fire.html
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May 12, 2022 at 6:10 pm #98875
I also wonder if the Chariots of Fire will be the return of the two witnesses… I’m curious why they chose that title for this training mission.
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May 12, 2022 at 7:15 pm #98881
Very nice read Derrick — I love the phrase coined “Zion Cube” — ever notice how the deceiver uses his version to bring fear “the Borg Cube – you will be assimilated” — God is perfect peace, love, and righteousness — Satan only breeds fear and lies.
I would agree that we are certainly “at the door” — and John saw a door open in heaven and the angel said come up here and I will show you what must soon come to pass …. Rev 4 —- as most of us understand it, the church is not mentioned again after this great event of John going through the heavenly portal to see … what must soon take place ….
It is so very exciting to be the terminal generation and to know that we will soon see the face of Jesus and enjoy God’s amazing kingdom … see you in the RITAN tea room
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May 13, 2022 at 10:20 am #98902
No doubt after the Rapture there will be concert worldwide offering solace and false hope for the future!
TR
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May 17, 2022 at 6:47 am #99094
About the 10 days of darkness that Rick referred to, I was thinking that there are 10 days from Ascension Day to Pentecost. I am hoping to go up before it gets dark!
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May 17, 2022 at 9:29 pm #99118
Hi, I am looking for the soon appearing of my Lord and Savior to catch me away along with the dead and living who have trusted in Him for their salvation. I don’t see it as a warning: I see it as good news. It could be soon! 1 Thess 4:13-18
Phil
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May 17, 2022 at 9:48 pm #99120
In agreement with you all … any day now
society as a whole is in a mega free fall … everything is collapsing … its all by design to bring in their “NWO” AND … the church is in the way
See you all very soon … as Tammie said … in the RITA tea room.
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May 18, 2022 at 2:32 pm #99140
SOON!!! In the Rita java/tea/donut/cake/cookie room……
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May 18, 2022 at 4:56 pm #99143
Charlie Kirk — listed on telegram that we should brace ourselves for the economic collapse and the stock mass=up just hit the worse day since 2020 — It is converging faster still — lightening speed; hold on to your seat belt we are in for a great ride and our ride ends in glory …. My thought is that we will speed up faster still as we draw closer to our departure
what say you’ll
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May 18, 2022 at 7:44 pm #99157
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Yeah things are “getting real” as they say. No where safe to store wealth.
I have a little in stocks, and should be buying more now while it is low, but I am not convinced that we recover this time. We are too close to that 3rd seal and at some point the music stops and not everybody gets a chair. Keeping a stash of cash isn’t even an option these days since no matter what you save, inflation and quantitative easing devalues our dollars every day and literally steals wealth from all of us. Another reason I think the rapture must be very soon, I think the proverbial poop hits the proverbial fan probably this fall and into the winter. I think it’s about to get very rough for anyone not in the ark of Jesus when the door shuts. Any lurkers – don’t mess around get saved while you can!You need to login in order to like this post: click here
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May 18, 2022 at 11:16 pm #99163
Hello everyone, I’m am not a financial expert so I don’t know if an IRA account based on gold is any safer than any other type of account. I only know that it feels safer and therefore might provide some comfort. If it gives you some peace, then it’s a good thing. I’m a member of CBC Federal Credit Union and I know they have IRA accounts based on gold. Having said that, I also know that during the instant known as the “twinkling of an eye”, it will no longer matter what the IRA account is based on.
One other note of information is that the Truth Social web site is now open to web access. You can connect to the site using any browser and that includes browsers running on Android phones. My user id is Rickjones427, I know, a real shocker.
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May 19, 2022 at 8:14 am #99171
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I’ve thought a lot about gold actually, and it does make sense in that it is a physical asset that will always hold some value if you have it. I have always heard that if you can’t hold it in your hands you don’t really have it. Those are concerns of mine about things that are gold backed – in the game of musical chairs when the music stops will it be my chair they try to steal? Actually I say gold will always hold it’s value – well, not always – I always think of this scripture:
“‘They will throw their silver into the streets, And their gold will be like refuse; Their silver and their gold will not be able to deliver them In the day of the wrath of the Lord; They will not satisfy their souls, Nor fill their stomachs, Because it became their stumbling block of iniquity.”
Ezekiel 7:19So there is coming a time when gold will be considered worthless, actually if I had to pick an investment in the near term I would say any kind of stored food at this point. You will never buy it cheaper than you can today (even though it’s not cheap – prices are only going to cost more in the future) it will always hold it’s value in that you can always eat it and save on your grocery bill in the future if the good ol days ever come back, and if not you can always sell some to people in need (not advocating price gouging which would be wicked in the Lord’s eyes – but you can get your money back out of the investment and probably even make a small profit which would not be wrong)
Of course this sounds like “prepping” and to some extent it is. On one hand I don’t think we will be here to need such “preps” but on the other hand Joseph in the book of Genesis prepped for an extended famine and was commended for it, so if we see such things on the horizon we have to live a life of duality – live like Jesus is coming today but also occupy until He comes and live like we might have to stick it out a few more years if we need to and hopefully be in a position to have enough for ourselves and our families and maybe help our neighbors. Sharing food in a famine is perhaps one of the best witnesses and open doors to sharing the Gospel and the hope that is within us.
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May 19, 2022 at 9:16 am #99172
Since we didn’t and don’t how long we will be on this earth, I had purchased gold back in 2008 when I retired. Not to place my treasures in this earth, but to only give my self the best possible chance of surviving until the rapture. In a sense I guess I have prepped waiting for the rapture, not planning on being here for the tribulation. I placed my faith in that bible verse also when making my decisions, understanding gold would be the last thing standing (IE: not Bitcoins or the dollar or anything else). See you in the air soon !!!!
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May 19, 2022 at 5:14 pm #99239
I have prepped for years; mostly with the knowledge that it is not for me but for those left, if my home survives what ever may happen. I have tried to have everything ready. MonkeyWerks just had a survival guy on and I can align with him.
Perhaps today – just make sure that the gold you have is in small bits as you or those to follow will be killed for the large bricks —- place tracks with all of your things as well. I have Bibles and tracks and a letter among the food, in prep buckets, and so forth. I also have purchased alcohol for them to barter with.
You are correct, Jospeh was told to prepare and I think that holds a bit of weight in one of the layers that God directed him and maybe us for a very short time before we go …. No one expected 2020 and while others where out scrambling for food and even TP and shelves became empty, My family was well cared for…..I didn’t even go to the store for the first three months.
Yes, we are out of here very soon!!!!
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May 19, 2022 at 12:04 pm #99178
I think real food (can goods, beans, pasta, P&J, crackers, etc.) bottled water, medical supplies (bandaids, alcohol, etc), candles, matches, camping prep gear and the
and info knowledge on what is happening for 7 years will be of GREATER value than any gold and silver bars for the left behind.
Since the survivors of who were vax will be on some sort of universal income … but the newly saved person in the tribulation, who isn’t vax with their latest demands and will NOT take the mark … might have the gold in their possession, but what good will it be … they wont be able to enter a grocery stores, restaurant, etc. without the special identity of the chip or whatever the mark is. Unless they barter with a family member or neighbor … but then after doing that … that person could easily turn them in because I’m sure they will get paid extra from the authorities to squeal on people including family members. And I can’t see the stores / restaurants carrying “real” food in the future … instead it will be some chemical man-made lab ___ will be considered “the new food”.
Praise the Lord He is taking us home soon … we’ve seen this world at its best and now its time to
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May 19, 2022 at 5:19 pm #99240
Geri — I would agree — Hey and I just found the best YouTube on making jars of dry Lentil soup. I have the jars, I have the spices and most of the lentils, so I ordered the dried veggies and will make about 20 jars of dry soup to place on the shelf with other stuff. It starts arriving tomorrow so prep 101 here I come,,,, along with unpacking more boxes, getting my hydroponics back up, plus I need to put the garden in this weekend, it is suppose to be warm and no rain …… Got all the young plants in the sunroom ready to go out ….. so unless God blows that beautiful trumpet, this is a busy work weekend for planting …..
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May 19, 2022 at 1:29 pm #99189
I keep rowing around the pond on this topic: hard assets like gold vs. food. My struggle (and I’m on that bus a lot these days) is Revelation 6:6 —
Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, “Two pounds of wheat for a day’s wages, and six pounds of barley for a day’s wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!”
Depending on the definition of “a day’s wages” – the scales tip for me. And then I think about Joseph in Genesis 41 – interesting that it uses 7 years. Hmmm… I’m going to have to step back on the bus and take a seat … thoughts?
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May 19, 2022 at 5:24 pm #99241
Todd — we may or may not see any of this, but …
Who knew 2020 would look like it did?
Who knew that Bill gates would shut down massive numbers of farms by buying up the land?
Who knew that evil would kill off our chickens and cattle (all lies), creating a meat shortage with sky-rocketing prices?
Who knew they would destroy baby formula?
Who knew the price of gas would be soooo high?
The wheels on the bus go round and round ….. you need to be prepared and especially if we don’t see our flt 777 until the fall as it is going to be a rough summer for sure ….
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May 19, 2022 at 5:43 pm #99244
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I hear what you are saying Todd and believe me I row around that pond a lot too! I guess where I am at is that I don’t prep at all for any of the seal judgements, like the scripture you quoted, I know I won’t be around when it gets that bad – but like Tammie said, no one really expected what 2020 would be like – and that being said, I feel like some of the seal judgements and tribulation period is sure casting a long shadow.
Like the whole covid thing and the mandate thing et al, was that similar to the first seal and MOTB? It was not the first seal, and the jab and the mandate were not the MOTB as some were falsely claiming – but it sure was similar in a lot of ways -just a shadow of things to come. Just like this war in Ukraine, is it WW3 and the second seal – no, but could easily become that and is it a shadow of things to come probably. Then we start hearing about inflation and food shortages and it sure does smell like the 3rd seal and the scripture you mentioned – I am confident we are not here when things get that bad, but can it cast its long foreshadow over the church age?
If the events of the past 2 years are any indicator I would say yes, so I think each person should seek wisdom and do whatever the Lord lays on each one’s heart knowing that we won’t be here to see the worst of it, but even as it says in Proverbs 27:12 “A prudent man foresees evil and hides himself; The simple pass on and are punished.” So if we see hard times coming, it is prudent to prepare for it really like all of our grandparents used to do before there were big grocery stores anyway. Also like Geri said, pack a few tracts or bibles with any stuff that is laid up and if we don’t need it maybe it will be a blessing to someone else.
I have often wondered what would happen to my house and all my stuff when I get raptured? I wonder if some poor ignorant soul who didn’t understand the Gospel in the age of grace will find a little shelter here and be blessed – but then again if it turns into Mad Max beyond the thunder dome, I have often considered God could sent a big tornado and destroy everything if He doesn’t want roaming bands of heathen mauraders to be blessed by my things. Who knows? All I know is I won’t miss anything I have to leave behind!
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May 19, 2022 at 3:08 pm #99219
Indeed dire days ahead! Both in scripture and found in the hearts of evil men!
Just ten years ago the general populace worldwide started to alter their thinking and shift of life priorities to what we are seeing today!
Talk about a pole shift!!!
If we don’t get Raptured soon, I’m gonna need a barf bag!
TR
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May 19, 2022 at 5:37 pm #99243
Has anybody invested in those freeze dried /dehydrated survival meal kits/buckets and if so … what is the best tasting brand?
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May 19, 2022 at 5:55 pm #99245
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I haven’t personally bought any of the freeze dried buckets so I can’t say, the extent of my “preps” is just to have a little extra cheap food on hand to get by for a few weeks maybe a couple months if things got rough. And coffee. Everyone, including me will go nuts without a morning cup of coffee!
I can always farm a little more and can a little more but if a shortage comes in winter, I’ll have a few months to wait to plant and my family won’t be eating good but they wont starve if they are not fussy! I’ve got chickens and goats and bees and keep cows for my neighbor so I’ve got a few options.
I’ve always told my brother and my sister in law who are city dwellers if things ever get too rough come here and I’ll feed them – I joke it might be hard boiled eggs and dirt sandwiches that I’m serving but they won’t starve lol.
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May 19, 2022 at 7:38 pm #99248
Most people think it has to be freeze dried — but seriously — you can do yourself a huge favor by putting aside rice and beans. White rice can be bought in 20 pound or larger bags and divided up into zip lock bags or even jars. Same with beans and lentils. Oatmeal, cream of wheat (for those not gluten free), canned tuna, chicken, spam (although not healthy, sustenance).
The idea with the freeze dried is this — remember the tribulation will be 7 years long — most of these products last for 5 to 20 years (depending on which company and what product). The left behind will need to survive with nothing growing (think of the seals that will come). All animals will be not always available to consume.
You have to think survival — not grocery store, or even the ability to grow (I do have a small stock pile of seeds available for them).
You can get lists from online sources and I follow many different sources. The ones left behind are due for a horrible life and starvation is top on that list.
Geri — I would highly recommend getting powdered peanut butter as well. And teas (for you) coffee for the rest of us
Remember you need a heat source to cook it, I bought from Sams, the burners that go under chaffing dishes and got a portable camping stove (it folds up to 4”x4”) this is a final back up for cooking.
Water will be a problem – so they need to have tablets and purifiers
TP will not be available, buy kitty litter and in many countries they already are used to using whatever they have, paper, magazines, etc….
I feel a heavy burden for them … Per chapter 4 in Revelation, the Bride will be taken out of this and is not subject to God’s wrath poured out on the earth. The church is not mentioned past Chapter 4, so when God’s wrath is poured out via the bowls and seals we will be in the lap of God’s love and enjoying our marriage feast …. But the left I need to have for them as God has opened the door and allowed me to prep for them….
Just my vision and mission
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May 19, 2022 at 7:15 pm #99246
Geri,
I have and I have The Wise company, but like Patriot supply better and they carry gluten free
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May 20, 2022 at 1:26 am #99255
Better off to buy what you like to eat rather than prepper freeze dried meals. Buy canned food that you enjoy. Start watching some of those prepper YouTubes for ideas.
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May 19, 2022 at 11:55 pm #99253
And then there are those who have digestive issue’s…needing gluten-free foods for storage!
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May 20, 2022 at 7:49 am #99257
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One other thing I wanted to add to this thread, because his thread went in a whole different direction – which is ok, that’s like good conversation, let it wander a little bit and see where it goes!
But we have really gotten into talking about some hard times and how to prep a little bit for them – so what I wanted to say to all is this: Yes we definitely do not want to be an ostrich with our head in the sand, we should watch not only for the rapture but for the perils on the horizon until we are rescued – but in the meantime I really want to emphasize that no one should be fearful under any circumstances.
We know that it is always faith that pleases God and not fear, so I wanted to put a statement of faith out there, the old saying goes, and is a real good one, work like it all depends on you and pray like it all depends on God, and that has served me well. I am a hard worker, but I know all I have is the blessing of God.
So here is my statement of faith: For anyone making any preps, whether great or small, do the best you can, seek out wisdom and guidance from the Lord and do as He leads you, but please, please, please do no be fearful. Do not worry, “what if I haven’t prepped enough?” Always remember the miraculous stories of old how God fed Elijah by the ravens, and how He miraculously fed the 5000, how he fed Israel manna from heaven, and how the widows oil did not run out. So many food miracles in the Bible!
I find it interesting that all of this food crisis is beginning on a Shmitta cycle which means that any observant Israelis will not be planting their fields and God will have to feed them by miraculous means since they won’t be able to prep anything! Anyway, just consider, faith is not an excuse to be lazy or lackadaisical do what you are able to do, but do not worry about whatever you are not able to do, God will make up the rest, I am convinced He can take 2 cans of tuna fish and stretch it out as long as it is needed if that is all you have set aside – besides that, we will probably be leaving it for someone else anyway.
I just wanted to encourage everyone with these thoughts in case anyone started reading down this thread and was getting a little concerned.
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May 20, 2022 at 10:23 am #99263
I have felt prompted by the Lord to prep a little bit, if the power were to stay on and we could use our freezer food we would have enough to feed 4 for perhaps 6-9 months, but if the power is out it would be more like 3-4 months. I haven’t felt led to do more than this….I wonder if it is meant just to help people out initially and for those who will see that the Lord had us prepare a little for them, and learn from our Bibles, books and left behind letters. The Lord will likely expect them to develop faith in Him and trust Him, and all the while learning that their life may be required. He loves the left behind trib saints no less than He loves us….I imagine that He will provide in miraculous ways, but will also complete the wrath that was prophesied. I think of the original Left Behind books and movies where the people that believed, studied scripture and knew what was coming and that some of them would likely die before the Lord returned. Even now I pray for the strength of those left behind to be able to endure, spread the word and be brave until the end, whether by death, martyrdom or Jesus’ return.
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May 23, 2022 at 11:04 pm #99466
From Amir’s e-mail newsletter:
Notice Jesus did not say “get” ready, but rather “be” ready for the coming of the Son of Man for He is coming unexpectedly. This is speaking of the means by which we can escape the things that are coming upon the whole world, which is the rapture.
Sad to say but there are actually people whose thought plan is to get saved during the tribulation if they miss the rapture. The problem with that kind of thinking asks what makes you think you will be able to die for Him then when you don’t even have to courage to live for Him now?
The Bible says there will be a one-world government in the tribulation and we constantly hear of the New World Order today. The Bible says there will be a massive famine during the tribulation, and there is constant talk of a global food shortage today. The Bible says people will be under a strong delusion and believe the lie of the Antichrist during the tribulation, and today we live in a time of unprecedented delusional thinking. Men can have babies, gender is fluid, a clump of cells or a blob of fetal tissue are phrases used to describe a human child in its mother’s womb in our day. All this is delusional thinking.
Everything going on in our world right now indicates that the time “such as has not been since the beginning of the world” is at hand.
Jesus is coming for His church soon! What follows is a time of unprecedented cataclysmic events. If you’re not ready, today is the day to get ready. If you know others who are not ready, today is the day to tell them how to be ready, even if you have told them before that the end of all things is at hand.
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May 23, 2022 at 11:24 pm #99467
I know we are not to be unduly led by dreams, but last night I dreamed twice of bridges. One was a railroad trestle going high in the air. Makes me think we will soon be crossing over.
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May 24, 2022 at 8:19 am #99500
Anonymous
Thanks for sharing that Patricia, I agree, the “signs of the times” abound and it has to be soon and personal confirmations, like dreams seem to indicate that also. About imminence….
I am always a little divided because I think the rapture is imminent but part of me feels as if the tribulation is not – as in, I think there may be a “set time” for that 70th week of Daniel. It is possible it is a Shmitta cycle like Mark Biltz teaches.
But whether it is or not, part of me feels like the start of the tribulation is a date already penciled in on the calendar and has been for a while – I also feel that while Satan might not know the date of the rapture, he might fully well know the date the tribulation will start. Sometimes I think this is why he and his forces of evil poke at us, it almost seems like he is trying to provoke God to rapture us so he can get his his program going.
If we are raptured on the day the tribulation starts he only gets his 7 years to wreak havoc – maybe he also is hoping we get raptured a few weeks or a few months earlier so he gets a little more time to put his plan into action, so sometimes I feel like he tries to pressure and threaten the church, like the dragon in Revelation 12, threatening to swallow the child, trying to provoke God to rescue us. Anyone have any opinions on this?
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May 24, 2022 at 9:08 am #99514
I lean there is going to be a small gap between the rapture and the start of the tribulation period. This morning I was thinking of Enoch … he was raptured out on his birthday (Pentecost) and since he is “a type of the church” that will experience the rapture event and the church was birthed on Pentecost perhaps that really is our departure date? Or is it Ascension Day? Also I was thinking God’s judgment didn’t start immediately after Enoch disappeared out of here … the flood occurred after his son Methuselah died. So there was a gap of time. So if God goes by a certain pattern … perhaps He will do the same?
I lean we need time for the meet and greet in heaven, judgment seat rewards ceremony, marriage ceremony, then there is praise ceremony and laying down our crowns at Jesus’ feet and then we are watching Jesus opening up the seals and then the tribulation kicks in. Well we be in balcony seats eating
and drinking slurpy fruit drinks or wine or beer or pina coladas while watching it all unfold on the earth or can we walk around and have our RITA partea fellowship? There is a verse where it says there is silence in heaven for about a 1/2 hour so I think we all be aware and know what is happening … if we are allowed to explore heaven and not watch the horrors that are taking place on the earth.
I hold to the view the marriage banquet feast doesn’t happen in heaven … but at the 2nd Coming and its on the earth … just not sure yet “where” … in Jerusalem or where the Garden of Eden was located or where the first miracle of turning the water into wine at the Cana Galilean wedding. The battlefield of Armageddon is nearby and the Lord already invited the birds to come and dine on those who died there. So perhaps our banquet feast is in the same region and our beloved fur babies are with us too as we dine? Plus at this point all the guests … tribulation saints and the Old Testament saints I think will have their new bodies at this point.
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