March 11, 2019 at 8:23 pm #1964KolleenWStoneModerator
REQUEST: Please consider reading the entire Article before commenting further about Sovereignty in just general terms, not specific to the Article. The article has a valid, solid teaching to be heard with scripture. It’s actual title is:
Insidious Sovereignty of God Belief Makes Powerless Victims
The sovereignty of God is one of those theological ideas that causes some significant challenges in the lives of believers. The idea that “God is in control” seems like it honors God because many mistakenly think that absolute control over everything at every moment is a fundamental requirement for God to be God. Plus it can be comforting because it shifts responsibility for what people do and don’t do onto God, along with the consequences of those choices.
“But our God is in heaven; He does whatever He pleases.” — Psalms 115:3
It also can seem comforting to think that God is controlling events when something horrible happens that is completely outside of that person’s control. Some people find comfort in the idea that God meant for them to suffer in order to serve some greater purpose of his.
Unfortunately it’s a false comfort because God is not in control of everything that happens here on planet Earth. The Bible is very clear on this issue, as we will explore in a moment.
We will also look at one of the huge consequences of this unbiblical view on the sovereignty of God, namely that it turns believers into powerless victims instead of the powerful sons and daughters of the Living God they were created to be.
People who say God is sovereign, and by that mean he is in control and directly responsible for everything that happens in our world, misunderstand a couple things that are explained in scripture.
One of the things I notice in conversations with people who hold this view, is that their opinion is almost never anchored in what is actually written in the Bible. Typically it comes out in simplistic generalized statements, the most common of which is simply, “of course God is in control.”
It’s critical that we learn what the Bible actually says. Otherwise we may very likely get things wrong.
Jesus answered them, “You are deceived, because you don’t know the Scriptures or the power of God.” — Matthew 22:29
Then there are those folks who do reference scripture, mostly taking a verse or two out of context which they use to support their predetermined understanding of God’s nature. But that’s backwards. We don’t look for passages in the Bible to “prove” our viewpoints. Instead we should look at the whole council of scripture and adjust our views to match that truth.
That said, let’s dig into what the Bible has to say on this topic….
Power vs. Authority…
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March 12, 2019 at 2:22 am #2000Blake7Participant
MARK 22And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God. 23For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith. 24Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them. 25And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses 26But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
Belief and forgiveness and faith and love
When Jesus was asked what the most important commandment is, He responded
You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,’ and ‘your neighbor as yourself.’” Luke 10:27
Gods will trumps all, it must be God’s will and we need to accept it. This is loving God with all your heart.
2 Corinthians 12 9And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 10Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ’s sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.
It has to be Gods will. And I for one do not claim to know the mind of God. I simply pray all things in accordance with His will.
March 12, 2019 at 6:52 pm #2083Watching&WaitingKeymaster
I do think He has allowed mankind to have dominion over the earth and with it comes the result of sin. If He was in control of everything, then He would be the One who brings pain and suffering, and that is not scriptural. It was not mentioned in the article, but in the book of Revelation, Jesus breaks the seals, which are like a deed to the earth. The world is given back over to Him. He then is allowed to judge the world.
March 12, 2019 at 10:25 pm #2111KolleenWStoneModerator
Son of Jacob
Graduate with honors from the University of Hard Knocks
Director of Global Effort to Save Humanity Succeeded
How? How did he flourish in the midst of tragedy? We don’t have to speculate. Some twenty years later the roles were reversed, Joseph as the strong one and his brothers the weak ones. They came to him in dread. They feared he would settle the score and throw them into a pit of his own making. But Joseph didn’t. And in his explanation we find his inspiration.
As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good in order to bring about this present result, to preserve many people alive. — Genesis 50:20 NASB
You intended to harm me, but God intended it for good to accomplish what is now being done, the saving of many lives. — Genesis 50:20 NIV
But as for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good, in order to bring it about as it is this day, to save many people alive. — Genesis 50:20 NKJV
In God’s hands intended evil becomes eventual good.
Joseph tied himself to the pillar of this promise and held on for dear life. Nothing in his story glosses over the presence of evil. Quite the contrary. Bloodstains, tearstains are everywhere. Joseph’s heart was rubbed raw against the rocks of disloyalty and miscarried justice. Yet time and time again God redeemed the pain. The torn robe became a royal one. The pit became a palace. The broken family grew old together. The very acts intended to destroy God’s servant turned out to strengthen him.
“You meant evil against me,”
Joseph told his brothers, using a Hebrew verb that traces its meaning to “weave” or “plait.”
“You wove evil,” he was saying, “but God rewove it together for good.”
God, the Master Weaver. He stretches the yarn and intertwines the colors, the ragged twine with the velvet strings, the pains with the pleasures. Nothing escapes His reach. Every king, despot, weather pattern, and molecule are at His command. He passes the shuttle back and forth across the generations, and as He does, a design emerges.
Satan weaves; God reweaves.
February 15, 2018
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