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    • #100560
      Patricia N.
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      Supreme Court Overrules Roe v. Wade in Dobbs Decision – Returns Abortion to State Lawmakers:

      The Supreme Court overruled Roe v. Wade on Friday, holding in the Dobbs case that the Constitution does not include a right to abortion and returning the issue of abortion laws and regulations to state legislatures.

      Roe was handed down in 1973 in a 7-2 decision, holding that the U.S. Constitution includes a constitutional right to abortion, despite the fact that abortion is not found in the text, structure, or history of the Constitution, and the nation went more than 180 years without ever noticing it existed. It has been one of the most divisive legal issues in American history.

      An early draft of Alito’s opinion leaked in May, the first such leak of a full opinion in the 233-year history of the Supreme Court, leading the left to violent protests, including destroying a pro-life center in Wisconsin, vandalizing churches, and threatening protests at the home of conservatives justices in violation of federal law.

      These threats have culminated in what was almost an assassination attempt of Justice Brett Kavanaugh, which went seemingly unnoticed by President Joe Biden – who did not speak out to condemn it – and has led to rapid action on a new federal law to protect the justices. The court majority evidently stood firm against the threats and public pressure, overruling Roe and the later revision of Roe in 1992, Planned Parenthood v. Casey.

      With Roe overruled, the issue of abortion now goes back to the states to pass whatever restrictions on abortions the voters of each state choose to adopt.

      https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/06/24/supreme-court-overrules-roe-v-wade-in-dobbs/

    • #100569
      Brad
      Participant

      AMEN!

    • #100571
      Patricia N.
      Participant

      Amir Tsarfati:

      The lives of hundreds of thousands of unborn babies were saved today! I am with tears of joy! SCOTUS chose life!  “I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; therefore choose life, that both you and your descendants may live.” (Deuteronomy 30:19)
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      The opposite of pro-LIFE is pro-DEATH. English made simple!
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      I see progressive liberal American Jewish people on social media claiming that Judaism is supporting abortions. That’s rubbish! Conservative Jews don’t do that. In life-threatening situations maybe but not just as a choice of a woman cause a baby isn’t what she wants to have at this point of her life!
      The political agenda is not a religious one!
      The fight for the unborn isn’t a religious one only. It’s the duty of a society that condemns any killing of the innocent!

      https://t.me/s/beholdisraelchannel

    • #100572
      Patricia N.
      Participant

      Yes, like Amir, I too have seen “Jewish” people on social media claiming that it’s perfectly fine for Jewish women to have abortions and that being Pro-Life is just a silly Christian idea.

      Once I forwarded an anti-abortion post on Facebook, and the rancor I got in return from my friends was unbelievable.

      Also, I have been horrified by the alphabet TV news agencies’ one-sided coverage of this issue.  They like to show only the abortion advocates.  They go on and on that, if you are pro-life you are hurting (or inconveniencing) women.  No mention of the baby.

      They claim that abortion is a Constitutional right when nowhere in the Constitution is it even mentioned.

       

    • #100579
      MyWhiteStone
      Participant

      Call me an old curmudgeon or grumpy old cynic, but I don’t see SCOTUS as being either heroes or villains.  They are opportunists who simply removed what had wasted their resources and was stuck in their craw back in 1973 by equally opportunistic predecessors — all unbiased men of course, unswayed by 1973 politics.

      Realistically, Democrat state legislators are elated not to suffer federal interference nor risk appeals any more, despite their clamor about this “bad decision.”

       

      • #100588
        Anonymous
        Inactive

        MWS,  I am a grumpy old curmudgeon too and I can’t help but look to other ulterior motives and ask the question “why now”. I wonder if this ruling was not issued now to:

        A.) Take away the argument of “my body my choice” for some future battle over vaccine mandates.

        B.) Stir up and energize the left ahead of the midterm elections so that they have something, anything to run on saying to their base “see this is what you get when you vote republican”

        That being said, it is just my jaded mind because I have seen such deception its hard to trust anything as pure these days – but whether the motivation of this ruling now was pure or had ulterior motives, I rejoice in the outcome.  It was bad law from the beginning and an overreach of federalist power for a very wicked cause so praise God it is gone.

        By they way, has anyone else taken notice that this declaration of liberty to the unborn seems to mark out a Jubilee cycle?  This thing has been around for just about 49 years if I recall and there is a lot of buzz going on that this fall might not only mark a Shmitta but a new jubilee year also.  Just one of those things that make you go hmmmm.

    • #100580
      Patricia N.
      Participant

      Pro-Abortion Rioters Attempt to Storm Arizona Capitol While in Session:

      Pro-life Republican state Senator Kelly Townsend, who was inside the senate building, tweeted members of the Senate were “being held hostage inside the Senate building.” Townsend said during one period the senators could “smell teargas and the children of one of the members are in the office sobbing with fear.”

      “I expect a J24 committee to be created immediately,” she added.

      Some Arizona state Democrats were displacing blame from the protestors, who were trying to enter the capitol by breaking through security, Townsend also said. “’This is a public building, and they wouldn’t let them in,’” Townsend overheard one Democrat say.

      MAGA Senator Wendy Rogers, who was also with her colleagues, said for safety reasons, the senators left the senate chamber and “assembled to take the tunnel to the House.” But the crowd was dispersed and the senators went back to the Senate.

      After the senate went into recess without concluding its business, the Arizona Department of Public Safety announced that tear gas had been successfully deployed and protestors had moved on to vandalize monuments at Wesley Bolin Plaza.

      “Troopers deployed gas outside the Senate building after protesters attempted to break the glass,” the Arizona Department of Public Safety stated. “The crowd then moved to the Wesley Bolin Plaza where some monuments were vandalized. Gas was deployed again to disburse the crowd.”

      The riot outside the Arizona capitol building was among many protests throughout the nation after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade Friday. Protests occurred in Seattle, Washington, DC, Los Angeles, Tucson, New York City, Reno, and Dallas.

      https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/06/25/pro-abortion-rioters-attempt-to-storm-arizona-capitol-while-in-session/

    • #100595
      Sonya
      Participant

      I don’t believe in abortion except in extreme circumstances, but I am really worried and scared about the mothers who have miscarriages and ectopic pregnancies… What’s going to happen to them when their doctor can’t do anything for them and they turn them away?  That has already started with one woman who was having a miscarriage who was vacationing in Malta. That doctor wouldn’t touch her. So she was airlifted to Mallorca. She is going to be okay now. Thank God.  But do you see what I mean? :(

      • #100603
        churchgal
        Participant

        First of all this ruling doesn’t change any law of any state, including the ones that allow abortion up until birth (how awful!!). It only says that women do not have a constitutionally protected right to an abortion. This ruling should not affect miscarriage treatment or treatment for ectopic pregnancies at all, because these treatments are in no way considered abortions and never have been. Anyone who says different does not know medicine.

        Not trying to be argumentative with you at all Sonya….there are just a lot of people online making up flat out lies about how women could be denied basic health care, which they aren’t…but sorry if I came across kind of gruff…didn’t mean to. :rose:

        • #100605
          Sonya
          Participant

          “Churchgal says, First of all this ruling doesn’t change any law of any state, including the ones that allow abortion up until birth (how awful!!).”

          Yeah that is awful.. :( It used to be too late! When did THAT change? :(

          “This ruling should not affect miscarriage treatment or treatment for ectopic pregnancies at all,”

          Oh okay whew! :)

          “because these treatments are in no way considered abortions and never have been. Anyone who says different does not know medicine.”

          I looked it up.. It says miscarriages ARE abortion.. I don’t know when that started, and I never heard of that before.

          “Not trying to be argumentative with you at all Sonya….”

          Oh no.. You are fine! :) I just wanted to get to the bottom of it.. :) *BEARHUGS* Thank you! :)

          “there are just a lot of people online making up flat out lies about how women could be denied basic health care, which they aren’t…but sorry if I came across kind of gruff…didn’t mean to.”

          Yeah it can be difficult sometimes. You didn’t sound gruff.. Thank you for helping me! :)

          • #100607
            churchgal
            Participant

            You are right, some of the medical literature calls miscarriages “spontaneous abortions” which means that the body rejected the pregnancy on its own but it does not involve an intentional cessation or stopping of the pregnancy by means of chemicals or instrumentation. I think that was the way to blur the lines in the medical community. :calvin Most providers that have practiced awhile and particularly those of us that are believers still call a miscarriage that and label intentional abortions as abortions. I hope that makes sense.

            • #100608
              Sonya
              Participant

              Yes Churchgal it makes sense. Thank you! :)

    • #100596
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Won’t individual states decide on that issue?!

      TR

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