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    • #10632
      Geri7
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      I saw this comment on the RITA facebook side … someone said the crowns that were handed out at the Judgment Seat we will later be casting down at Jesus’ feet in the worship ceremony in Rev 4:10-11  the twenty-four elders fall down before him who sits on the throne and worship him who lives for ever and ever. They lay their crowns before the throne and say: ‘You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being.’”

      The person who made the comment also indicated Jesus keeps all the crowns.  Then Andy Hunt’s (Humble Horse) commented … “What is God going to do with all those crowns!!!”

      I was thinking of all the church age saints and all the crowns that will be handed out … and started giggling because that will be A LOT of crowns!  My thoughts are we will be so overcome with gratitude and thankfulness at the worship ceremony because of what He has done for us that it will be a spontaneous reaction to lay our crowns down for Jesus since He alone is worthy.    I’ve heard some Christians say “since we are just going to give our crowns back, why strive for them?”  I think that is the wrong attitude to have because we should be wanting to hear “well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy Lord.”  Matt 25:23   Besides that … I believe the Lord delights in giving us good gifts.  He is so loving and generous and I don’t believe Jesus is an “Indian Giver” so we will be able to keep the crowns and we will probably be wearing them with the assigned duties He gives us in ruling and reigning with Him during the Millennium period.

      Just wondering your thoughts on this? :feedback

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    • #10634
      tenderreed
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      Seems to me the question then becomes, will He keep them.  Or as you of have stated will they be held for us until we need them?!

      And if we do keep them, will they be a constant reminder for all to see the level of surrender we displayed in this life?!

      For if Jesus the general of the army that returns on white horses wants to highlight various acts of bravery, courage and patience by giving crowns for the soldiers who fought on this battlefield of Earth then we should receive them graciously.  Although our immediate response will be to cast them down at His feet.  Saying in effect that crowns don’t matter, but the thought that Jesus was so moved as to give us those crowns, is enough.

      Our casting our crowns to the Lord is simply a gesture of love, honor and gratitude!

      TR

       

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      • #10636
        Geri7
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        :amen:   The crowns symbolize our faithful obedience in following the Lord as well as being a watcher and longing for His return.  At the worship ceremony how awful it will be for those who didn’t at least strive for a crown.  I would think they will be ashamed and regret being empty handed because they had their eyes fixed on obtaining only the fleeing perishable junk down here and not even watching/wanting the rapture to happen.  This to me is the easiest crown to obtain.

        I’m wondering now if there is a huge factory/storage facility in heaven and some angels are busy at the assembly lines assigned to the task of melting the gold and molding the crowns and perhaps even adding some gem stones? :whistle:

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    • #10637
      tenderreed
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      Angelic elves in Heaven!  Love it!

      TR

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    • #10639
      David W. Roche
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      I also think the crowns are laid aside as a tribute to Christ, who makes it possible for us to wear them.  It would seem we are allowed to keep them, although that is an opinion rather than something which is addressed directly.

      If I remove my hat (something I almost never wear) out of respect, it doesn’t mean I no longer possess the hat.

      https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/23026/diadema-or-stephanos

      What Christ wears is a diadem, showing his authority.  What we are given is a wreath or a garland to be worn, similar to what was presented to the winner of an event.

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      • #10640
        Geri7
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        Oh, kind of like a gold headband … like this?

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    • #10641
      tenderreed
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      And it seems to me that as following the Jewish custom the robes we wear will also include whatever titles and awards of prominence we may receive.  Either with or without crowns our accomplishments will be known.

      TR

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    • #10642
      David W. Roche
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      Yes, Geri.

       

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    • #10648
      Tammie
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      Here ya go Geri, fancy robe to go with the crown! Although, ours will be much brighter and far beyond imagination. :yahoo:
      https://www.subpng.com/png-32gju2/download.html

       

       

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      • #10658
        Geri7
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        So cool,  Tammie!  Now you got me thinking there must be a clothing factory up in heaven and some angels assigned as “tailors or fashion designers” sewing our robes so they fit just perfectly.  I don’t know about you but I’m short so they are really going to have to spend time taking up the hem. B-)

        Now you have my mind wondering :wacko:  what are we going to wear when we are flying upward and in attendance at the grand reunion RITA party … before the Judgment Seat starts?  I’m giggling now just thinking about us all meeting in the Rose Garden picking a rose :rose: to attach to our garment or to place in our hair before heading to the party!

        And are there going to be clothing shops on Rainbow Blvd with American clothes and other culture clothing for other activities later on to change into? :scratch:

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    • #10651
      tenderreed
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      Don’t forget the ring!  For the prodigal Bride.

      TR

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    • #10680
      Tammie
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      Geri,

      I’m thinking I want an extremely White Robe, with beautiful iridescent trim and gold, with sparkling diamond dust. My crown is of purest gold, simple, but elegant. I’m a petite frame as well so have to watch not just the hem but the arm length.
      Now, God took great care in describing Aaron’s priestly garments, so as I go up, in a twinkling I get that perfect, gorgeous robe and crown. Can I find that perfect grouping of lavender flowers to meet you all. I just love the color purple. I’ve requested my heavenly abode to be surrounded with a water fall, and purple flowers :yahoo:

      Just imagine the peace, love, beauty we are about to become part of? It’s glorious! :prayer-hands:

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    • #10688
      Geri7
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      Your white robe sounds so beautiful, Tammie!  Woohoo … its good to see the petite group is growing in numbers!  Yep, I hear ya about the long sleeve arm length problem  … I learned to just roll up the sleeves. ;-)   Yes,  purple flowers are the best … Zinnias, Veronicas, Butterfly bush, Lilac bush/trees … and the purple roses would be the icing on the cake in that garden!  Perhaps we will be next door neighbors since I dream for a view of a purple flower garden as well.  The water fall sounds lovely but I wish for a lot more water … say an ocean beach view. ;-)    Since you love purple … is your birthday perchance in Feb?  We discovered last week there are a lot of Aquarian’s on this board … T.R., Yohanan, Loz, me …. B-)

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    • #10689
      tenderreed
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      Indeed a waterfall sounds wonderful.  Given that we will be there for eternity I’ve thought it would be nice on a whim to just simply redo my dwelling from time to time.  Just think something new into existence and bam, it’s there.  I know that a lot of women like change as well.

      I love rocks and stone, I love flowers and shrubs, I love birds of every ilk.  Meadows and fields, forests as well!  I also love a wood burning fire place seeing the flames dancing in joy before the Lord.  I love artistry, paintings, statues, delicate and fine things.  And then there will things that I’ve never imagined or experienced to choose from.  Warm sunny days, and snow that isn’t cold!

      But even if I have but a room with four walls, and rags to wear I will be glad and grateful for it!

      TR

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    • #10695
      Geri7
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      Yes, I do expect the inside decor of our dwelling place to get a facelift from time to time.  One of my hobbies is going to Goodwill stores and getting things dirt cheap and giving new life to the items by cleaning them up and painting them.  I doubt there will be junk yards in heaven though … perhaps I have to fly to another planet :mdrmdr:  Do you like to paint pictures and do art work?   I do like wood burning fireplaces but I don’t want to see another snowflake for at least 1 millennium.  My neighbor said to me today …”is this winter ever going to end?”   Outside shoveling snow in 14 degree weather … and right now its 1 degree (that is not a typo) I’m just sick of the cold. :negative: But I can understand … just a little bit for all you who are fortunate to live in the warm climate states wishing for that nasty 4 letter word “snow”. But snow without the cold does sound intriguing!

      Oh I love watching the birds too.  My favorite are the hummingbirds and woody woodpeckers.  Great personalities and a joy to watch as they eat at the bird feeders.  What are your favorite?  I wonder if we will have multi views from various windows … the mountains and green meadows with wildflowers from one window, the forest with colorful leaves and waterfall /river from another window, the ponds or lakes with the summer flowers from another and the ocean with sandy white beaches from the other window?  All 4 seasons – spring, summer, fall, spring. :whistle:   Oh, did I leave out winter? B-)

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    • #10707
      Tammie
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      TR, I agree a change up will have to occur about every 1000 years or so :mdrmdr:  I love the rugged look of log homes, woods, moss on rocks and trees, forest, etc… I could also just sit for hours watching the waves break on the beach and over rocks.
      My favorite bird is the humming bird as well, I have feeders for them and just am amazed at the way they hover.
      Sorry Geri but I’m a turkey baby, with a November birthdate. I don’t care much for yellow (topaz) except in a field of daisys. I just love purple and rich blues. I would love to have you as a neighbor, maybe we can have one area in our heavenly abode dedicated to our RITAN family? :yes:

      I am not artsy at all, very scientific brain, but I have found the most amazing artist to just watch on YouTube. She is Vietnamese and follows the pattern of Bob Ross but she doesn’t talk, just music, so for a relaxing treat visit her site on Wow Art. She is so cool to watch, makes even me want to pick up a canvas and try.
      I think I’ll take up painting for a few 1000 years. Hey , I’ll go plant hopping with you Geri – what fun! See you all sooner than later :prayer-hands: :flyup:

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      • #10712
        Geri7
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        Oh now you’re talking … I do love log cabins homes!  However, I never seen a log cabin beach front home … but hey … in heaven all things are possible. :whistle:    Yep, I find the ocean waves so peaceful to watch as well and walking along the shoreline or horseback riding on the beach?

        LOL  a turkey baby.  One of my brother’s celebrates his at the time as well.  The Topaz stone really isn’t that bad … especially if you mingle it in with other stones.  Remember the sterling silver stackable rings in the 1990’s?  I had 5 of these rings … Amethyst, light Ruby, Emerald, Sapphire, and Topaz stones that I would individually link together and change the look by switching the the colors around.  I always keep the pink and purple stones together though.   In heaven I wish for a stackable ring with all 12 gem stones!

        Thanks for the heads up on the Vietnamese artist … I will check out her youtubes!  My uncle is an artist and makes 3-D murals with French doors  and flower gardens, trees, etc.  He is a believer so I can just imagine what he is going to do when he gets inspired with the splendor of heaven.  I would love to take up painting classes … and if we goof up, perhaps we just have to say “be gone” and the mistakes disappear with special paints? :mdrmdr:

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    • #10711
      tenderreed
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      One crown that shall never be taken, is the crown of His heart towards each of us!  His love for us was there even before the cross, before the foundations of the Earth were laid, before He knit each of us in our mother’s wombs, His love was there!

      TR

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    • #10713
      regina
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      maybe the crowns are taken off every time we are before the throne out of respect and honor to the Lord; then can be taken back as we go, to be laid at His feet over and over again

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    • #10714
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Great thought Regina!  Loving it.  Glad to hear from ya.

      TR

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    • #10715
      Tammie
      Participant

      Regina, could be what we do, like the fair ladies and knights of long ago. Course, I’m not sure 100%, that I want to walk around with a crown on my head – my personal thought. For my thoughts – When I run to see my Heavenly Father, I would probably forget to remove it as I seek that peaceful and loving hug from Him.

      Then again, I might need to wear the crown as I fly around during the 1000 year reign on earth to work for our Lord in what He chooses for me to do.
      Can you imagine what our life will be like surrounded by those born during the millennium, the righteous judge rules and reigns and we are in our perfection among those who are not His and Satan is bond. what fun and responsibilities. :prayer-hands:

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    • #10719
      tenderreed
      Participant

      We will no doubt bare witness to all that God is and has done.  Teach and brag on God!  Council, aide and assist in whatever way we can.  For Satan will be released to that they who are still flesh and blood can also be tested as were.

      TR

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