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    • #9132
      Geri7
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      Just wondering your thoughts on the impeachment of Trump.  Does it sound serious enough that he will be kicked out of office before his term expires?  Or does it mean he can’t run for a 2nd term?  If he does get booted out, do you think the rapture will happen before that occurs?

      Or do you feel he’s “teflon Don” and they really don’t have a case against him and will remain in power and will win another term?

      :feedback

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    • #9138
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Trump is there to serve His purposes.  For however long or short that might be.  I am however fully convinced we shall not have another president after Trump.

      TR

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    • #9146
      Watchman35
      Participant

      Quite remarkable to watch reprobate, delusional minds take over people who are among the highest political leadership in our country, such that they are utterly incapable of discerning truth from lies and good from evil.  So sobering.  We are watching the implosion of our nation, but for some reason God in His grace and mercy has not allowed it to cross the critical mass threshold…yet.   I sure hope we are out of here before the Lord allows that to happen.  Perhaps it is simply because the Restrainer, the Holy Spirit indwelling the Body of Christ, is still here.   Maranatha!!!

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    • #9155
      MyWhiteStone
      Moderator

      Lots of people, maybe the majority in this country, are ignorant and apathetic sheeple.  But it feels like there are many who are waking up to what’s goin’ down, who also find these proceedings and these perpetrators (traitors!) actually reprehensible.  Yet I still hope that President Trump is taken as a believer and truster in God with us in the Rapture well before next November.  Yeah, him and all us other deplorables who continue to cling to our guns and Bibles.  Good riddance to us!  Right?  Right!!!!!

      I hope they enjoy their anarchy and subsequent oppression by demonic global Luciferian powers.  I suppose Schiff and company are expecting some lofty position in the New World Order.  When they lie they speak their native language.

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    • #9158
      Earthangel
      Participant

      I’d love it as well, if Trump and his family made the rapture.  I’ve always thought Trump had good intentions, though he does like the taste of his own foot, and if I could keep him from “tweeting”, I would do it.  However, if we are still here next November and regardless of impeachment which everyone knows will be squelched when it hits the Senate, Democrats are desperate, simply because they already know they have no one in their “clown car of candidates” that can beat Trump!

      B-)

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    • #9159
      Kenneth K Pon
      Participant

      I can’t help but see a parallel between what is going on in Washington D.C. and Elijah’s confrontation with the priests of Baal on Mt Carmel (1 Kings 18).
      There is a group of Baal worshipers in our Capitol (Mt Carmel) who sacrifice babies. Trump is like an Elijah figure who taunts via tweets this group of evildoers. You might recall that Elijah told the Baalites that their god was not responding with fire from heaven because “either he is occupied or gone aside (gone to the bathroom), or is on a journey, or perhaps he is asleep and needs to be awakened.” Doesn’t that sound like such a non-PC, Trumpian tweet? :-) So rather than coming to their senses, the Baalites double down on their evil idiocy and start cutting themselves with swords and lances until they were a bloody mess. Doesn’t that sound like liberals? In the Elijah story there were people nearby that witnessed the whole episode and probably were shaking their heads at the self-mutilation going on. I think that the sham impeachment is waking a lot of people up to the lunacy of the left. In the end, Elijah wins out with God’s help and the people kill the prophets of Baal. Maybe the election of 2020 will be a bloodbath of sorts for the modern Baalites? I do wonder if what the liberals are doing is a God thing. Maybe He has given them over to insanity in order for the people’s eyes to be opened. Just thoughts.

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    • #9161
      Geri7
      Participant

      Great responses from each of you!

      Have you noticed … the last 4 letters on each party …

      Republican  (ican)     Democrats (rats)   Hmmm …

      Wow Kenneth, you sure hit a home run with your comparison of Old Testament dark days of Baal worship to 21st Century Washington DC soap opera drama.  Great job! :good:

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    • #9177
      David W. Roche
      Moderator

      Technically, it’s unclear whether Trump actually has been impeached, since Pelosi is refusing to turn the articles over to the Senate.  This isn’t working out for the Democrats the way they imagined, and all they are doing is running psy-ops on the other side (and the rest of the country) through the media.  The polls are showing the public is either losing interest in the shenanigans or else they are becoming angry at the waste of time.  Yes, there is a large group of Trump haters who want him impeached for winning in 2016.  Nothing will ever convince them otherwise.  But the Dems know it is not mathematically feasible to reach the numbers in the Senate to convict Trump.  So they are doing all they can to “deem” Trump impeached and removed already and to frustrate him from accomplishing anything.

      Can Trump win next November?  Look at who he’s running against.  That’s the reason we have the sham impeachment being conducted to start with.

      That said, there’s no guarantee.  When you’re dealing with insanity, there are no absolutes regarding the outcome.

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    • #9182
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Only insanity can tolerate insanity.  So for those of us who are sane and who’s eyes are not filled with spiritual delusion, it is hard to comprehend logically.

      That said, I think that we must constantly remind ourselves that indeed great spiritual delusion is at play here.  Just like with Israel!  Again reminding one and all that spiritual warfare is at play, not the political will of men!

      Also, we know that the Lord God Almighty is presently exposing sin before all.  Almost as if He is now identifying who are the sheep and who are goats!  Once identified, they shall likewise be judged!

      I believe what we in this final generation who witness and experience the deception of man, will be called upon in the Milennial reign to share and teach against.  For even during this 1000 yrs of Garden life restored, spiritual deception shall also again abound!

      God’s anointed and appointed shall always prevail!

      TR

       

       

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    • #9196
      Yohanan
      Moderator

      Good analogy, Kenneth! I like that

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    • #9220
      DonnaDonna
      Moderator

      Yes. .  Our amazing Adored God is orchestrating this  ~~ behind the scenes we do see in spirit great confirmation of immense clashing in the heavenlies . . the darkness desperately hitting against the Light like never before,  is  drawing us close to our Lord’s return . . ~   just as Jesus said it would be  ~ ~

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    • #9221
      Earthangel
      Participant

      Here’s something I’ve heard recently about whether the Democrats have a case for impeachment against Pres. Trump.  From Wikipedia: “The Constitution gives Congress the authority to impeach and remove “The President, Vice President, and all civil officers of the United States” upon a determination that such officers have engaged in treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.”

      The current charges of “abuse of power” and “obstruction of Congress” are not Constitutional reasons to impeach a president.

      Also I just saw an article that was written last September:

      “DOJ Clears Trump Less Than 24 Hours After Pelosi’s Impeachment Announcement”

      So a day after Pelosi said:

      “The actions of the Trump presidency revealed the dishonorable fact of the president’s betrayal of his oath of office, betrayal of our national security, and betrayal of the integrity of our elections,” Pelosi told reporters on Tuesday from the Capitol Building, according to ABC News. Pelosi cited the Ukraine controversy in her brief statement about impeachment.

      The Department of Justice said:

      The Department of Justice’s Criminal Division “reviewed the official record of the call and determined, based on the facts and applicable law, that there was no campaign finance violation and that no further action was warranted,” DOJ spokeswoman Kerri Kupec told HuffPost for an article published Wednesday.  She said all “relevant components of the Department agreed with this legal conclusion, and the Department has concluded the matter.”

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    • #9222
      Earthangel
      Participant

      Also, here is some more info; the impeachment results show that this impeachment

      is a Democrat only judgment.

      IMPEACHMENT VOTE RESULTS

      Party                                    Yea         NAY

      Radical Democrats             229         2

      Republicans                         0            195

      “I’m not for impeachment without bipartisan support.”
      Nancy Pelosi (March 2019)

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    • #9226
      David W. Roche
      Moderator

      “I’m not for impeachment without bipartisan support.”
      Nancy Pelosi (March 2019)

      Quoting a Democrat to illustrate hypocrisy is now defined as “hate speech.”

      I hear you.  It’s just a dead end these days to point out what they’re saying makes zero sense.  Truth is dead to them.

      I know that sounds pessimistic, but I can pretty much tell you the response you’d get to that statement:  “Yes, we’d like to have support from the other side, and we’d have it if Trump wasn’t such a maniacal despot who has corrupted the process so thoroughly that there’s not a single Republican left who will stand up to him.  We can’t leave this up to the Republican controlled Senate to decide this, nor can we take the chance of Trump being allowed to run in the next election.  We have to save the country from this man!”

      The merry go round broke down.  That’s all, folks.

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    • #9236
      Watchman35
      Participant

      Meanwhile, while Pelosi cannot bring herself to actually deliver the House-approved articles of impeachment to the Senate, there are now some reports popping up in various media that say the House of Representatives is at least considering the possibility of a second round of impeachment.  You cannot make this stuff up.

      It is so sobering to watch representatives, elected officials who are charged with serving the people and running our country, who are pathological liars with reprobate minds that are literally incapable of discerning truth from lies…good from evil.  You cannot appeal to logic or rationality, as they are disconnected from reality.  And they don’t know it!

      It’s like having to try to convince someone that ripping a baby’s limbs from their body while murdering them in their mother’s womb is evil and an abomination before our God.  They are blinded by a strong delusion.  Jesus remains the only hope, both theirs and ours.  Hard not to cry out from the depths of my soul,  Maranatha!!!

       

       

       

       

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    • #9254
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Delusion is prominent.  Whether the delusion is self initiated or demonic inspired, it accomplishes the same end.

      It seems to me that the bedrock of delusion is based on the notion that God is not supreme.  For when man takes on the authority of God in matters small and large, the errors of man are multiplied!

      TR

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    • #9315
      DonnaDonna
      Moderator

      ~ ~ interesting, too is Pelosi ‘announcing’ she prays for Trump every day,  .  never heard her say she prayed for any president before ~` . .  the power of man’s free choice continues to amaze me, all the while we KNOW our Righteous GOD hears and sees all,  ~ ~ . . there will come the day  God says, ‘enough’  ~~

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    • #9333
      Yohanan
      Moderator

      Make me wonder who Pelosi prays to? :unsure: Not!

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    • #9355
      MyWhiteStone
      Moderator

      I can hear Pelosi’s prayer now:  “[g-d], please strike him dead with lightning or something dramatic in order to silence those evangelical deplorables, and so that we can accelerate and celebrate the anarchy we so desperately want and need!  Okay?”

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    • #10410
      Geri7
      Participant

      So I see the senate voted Trump “not guilty”. :yahoo:   Do you think the demoncrates  will quietly raise the white flag in defeat … or do you think they have something else up their sleeve?

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    • #10413
      David W. Roche
      Moderator

      Give up?  Surely you jest.  A sane person would recognize when he’s lost; a sane party would do the same.  But then you have the answer right there.

      The Left is made up of Progressives.  Consider what that means:  At the core, they can never be satisfied with the way things are, and therefore must keep things in a constant state of turmoil.  A Conservative mind can accept that this is an imperfect world, because of sin, and that God is the ultimate authority.  A Progressive must always seek to tear down the system, which they see as inherently corrupt and flawed, and replace it with a god in their own image.  They must rule; they must win; or else, their foundational belief in the infinite perfectibility of human existence (under their control, or course) is threatened.

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    • #10419
      Geri7
      Participant

      Viewing the video with  sourpuss  “Nanshee Peloshee” (as Rush calls her) was wearing all white and so were her entourage of encouragers … I couldn’t help but think that represented the “white flag”.   But you’re right, Nancy is not going to give up … she couldn’t even do her job properly by presenting the correct title of the President when he entered the room and then her childish act of ripping up his speech at the end. :wacko:   I don’t want to be here in November … but if we still are, perhaps all her shenanigans that night will all backfire and a few average democrats, who are not so rabid, will swing their votes for a landslide Republican win AND perhaps send her off to retirement status? :whistle:

      Tomorrow three Republican Congressmen claim they will give the Dems a taste of their own medicine. They will file a complaint with the Ethics Commission. They will request that Pelosi be censured for her behavior.    And Vice President Pence says he wondered whether Pelosi was tearing up the speech or the Constitution. :popcorn

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      • #10432
        regina
        Participant

        the women dressed themselves in white to identify with suffragettes. its better to be identified in white with the Lord

        https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2019/02/06/SOTU-Female-Democrats-wear-white-in-solidarity-with-suffragettes/2851549441733/

        Revelation 19:7-10 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
        7 Let us rejoice and be glad and give the glory to Him, for the marriage of the Lamb has come and His bride has made herself ready.” 8 It was given to her to clothe herself in fine linen, bright and clean; for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints.

        Rev 19:14 And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses.

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    • #10433
      tenderreed
      Participant

      So that explains why the good cowboys always were the white hats!

      TR

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    • #10434
      David W. Roche
      Moderator

       

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    • #10435
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Heh, where did you get a picture of me?!  OK, not.

      TR

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    • #10438
      Watchman35
      Participant

      It is truly breathtaking to watch this group of deluded, self-righteous people who have absolutely lost their God-given ability to discern between good from evil.  You can’t persuade them with truth.  They have no interest in it.  They will keep trying to remove or assassinate President Trump.  It is only by God’s mighty hand that he is still our President.  This is a foretaste on a small, yet nonetheless remarkable scale, of what the delusion will look like during Daniel’s 70th week once the Restrainer is removed.  Do you ever feel like if you could, you would press the stop button on the planet just long enough to step off.  If God wants to keep going in His inexplicable grace and mercy another year or two or ten before He comes to rescue His Bride, my opinion obviously will not sway Him.  If that is the case, I just want to go home now myself.  I am not despondent or suicidal.  I am just weary of the pain, sorrow and heartache of living in this broken, fallen world.  I want to be with our God, where we are cared for and secure to be everything He intends for us to be with absolutely no fear, without having to deal with people who hate God and hate Truth.   As an old song by the contemporary Christian group called 4Him says, I want to “run with the angels on streets made of gold, to listen to stories of saints new and old, to worship our Maker, that’s where I’ll be, when you finally find me…I wish you were here.”  I wish I was there, too.  Maranatha or let me come home, Abba.

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    • #10440
      Geri7
      Participant

      Yep, the world today is truly a vexing place for the believer.

      I often find myself singing this old song …

      This world is not my home I’m just a passing through
      My treasures are laid up somewhere beyond the blue
      The angels beckon me from heaven’s open door
      And I can’t feel at home in this world anymore
      Oh Lord you know I have no friend like you
      If heaven’s not my home then Lord what will I do
      The angels beckon me from heaven’s open door
      And I can’t feel at home in this world anymore.

      – Fair Use –

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      • #10461
        Watchman35
        Participant

        Well, Geri7, here are the lyrics to the song it makes me think of.  Not an old hymn, by any stretch.  Building 429. (As in Ephesians 4:29, as in building each other up.)

        “Where I Belong”

        Sometimes it feels like I’m watching from the outside
        Sometimes it feels like I’m breathing, but am I alive?
        I will keep searching for answers that aren’t here to find

        All I know is I’m not home yet
        This is not where I belong
        Take this world and give me Jesus
        This is not where I belong

        So when the walls come falling down on me
        And when I’m lost in the current of a raging sea
        I have this blessed assurance holding me

        All I know is I’m not home yet
        This is not where I belong
        Take this world and give me Jesus
        This is not where I belong

        When the earth shakes
        I wanna be found in you
        When the lights fade
        I wanna be found in you

        All I know is…

         

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    • #10467
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Amen to that!  The things of Earth are surely growing strangely dim!  Again, I don’t know what time it is, but it’s later than it’s ever been!

      TR

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    • #10474
      Geri7
      Participant

      You’re right David … I was hoping the democRATS would have given up after the acquittal decision.  But no … here we go … Round 2 from the land of snowy cold looneyville … we have the “Republican” Governor of Vermont, (Phil Scott) saying “Trump shouldn’t be in office”.   Looks like Phil Scott is another RINO … he even admits he didn’t vote for Trump.  Ok … how much money, under the table, did Bernie give him? B-)

      Yahoo news


      MONTPELIER, Vt. (AP) — President Donald Trump abused his power and shouldn’t be in office, Vermont Gov. Phil Scott, a fellow Republican, said Thursday in a rare dissent from within party ranks.

      The U.S. Senate should have been allowed to hear from more witnesses who could have provided evidence about the charges against the president, Scott, a frequent Trump critic, said at a news conference.

      After being asked about the president’s acquittal Wednesday in the Senate, Scott said the outcome was almost a foregone conclusion.

      “If they’d taken more testimony, maybe they’d have had more information and maybe other senators would have acted appropriately,” Scott said.

      When pressed about whether he would have voted to remove the president, Scott noted he isn’t a member of the Senate.

      “I believe that the president abused his powers. It’s hard, in some respects for me, because I’m not a supporter,” Scott said. “I didn’t vote for the president, and I don’t believe that he should be in office.”

      – Fair Use –

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    • #10476
      David W. Roche
      Moderator

      https://world.wng.org/content/vermont_enacts_pro_abortion_lawhttps://ontheissues.org/Phil_Scott.htm

      Supports gay marriage and transgender bathroom rights. (Oct 2016)

      https://www.sevendaysvt.com/OffMessage/archives/2017/03/28/scott-signs-bill-limiting-trumps-immigration-executive-orders

      [quote]“I believe that the president abused his powers. It’s hard, in some respects for me, because I’m not a supporter,” Scott said. “I didn’t vote for the president, and I don’t believe that he should be in office.”[/quote]

      Come on.  We all realize it’s not as if these people have changed in any respects since Trump announced he was running.  They despised him before the sham impeachment, and they are using this as an excuse to jump in front of the cameras for attention.  Abuse of power?  To them, Trump having breakfast is enough reason to accuse him of being unfit for office.

      [quote]“If they’d taken more testimony, maybe they’d have had more information and maybe other senators would have acted appropriately,” Scott said.  [/quote]

      Maybe the House of Representatives should have presented a case that the president committed some sort of high crime or misdemeanor.  Instead, they wanted the Senate to waste the public’s time on what was essentially an election campaign for the Democrats.

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    • #10520
      Yohanan
      Moderator

      All of these people who are so hawkish on abuse of power must have been in a coma during the Obama administration. If they were so keen on protecting America then most of Obama’s administration would be in the federal penitentiary right now.

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    • #10531
      tenderreed
      Participant

      True story!

      TR

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