United Allied States and the 9th of Av

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    • #18280
      Arthur
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      Been hearing some buzz about this. A United Allied States and elections to take place on July 30th which is the 9th of Av. The 9th of Av has been traditionally a tragic day as both Temples in Jerusalem were destroyed on that day, among other events.

      Could this be the election of the Beast? If so, then the Rapture would take place in July.

      Here is a video on the subject:

       

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    • #18293
      tenderreed
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      Curiouser and curiouser!  July 30/31 looming!

      That’s my wedding anniversary!  Another wedding to be part of.

      TR

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    • #18296
      tenderreed
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      I’ve heard this was being planned.  Certainly solidifies a 2020 Rapture.  One step up on Heavens stairway!

      Just another confirmation of our soon departure!  A tangible quickening of our spirits!

      TR

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    • #18300
      Watchman35
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      This could very well prove to be legitimate and significant, but color me a bit skeptical at this point.  I have learned the hard way over time to take EVERYTHING on the internet with a healthy dose of skepticism until it can be proven out by at least a couple of credible sources (by the word of 2 or 3 witnesses, let a matter be established).  It is unclear where the United Nations would factor in to such a proposed new international entity of any significance, which strikes me as a bit perplexing.

      Sometimes, and I am not prepared to say this is the case with the United Allied States story, there is just one source, with multiple other entities merely echoing that same original source.  The 9th of Av connection certainly adds a provocative dynamic to the proposed timeline.  In any case, not long to wait to find out.  Of course, if we are harpazoed before that date, I suspect our celestial perspective will render it a moot point.

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    • #18302
      tenderreed
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      Better safe than sorry!  TR

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    • #18304
      regina
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      regina
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    • #18357
      regina
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      maybe its just me, but there is a lot I don’t understand.

      I don’t know if the website or what is being worked on is fake, a wannabe, or a real thing growing for governments to use or to maybe organize those who are interested to join a common financial new sort of society structure. If its real, what about the obligations people have to their own country as citizens? which “law” and department would apply in everyday life. what about people’s pay or income because they get it in common currency now. I don’t know.

      I do know that Daniel is real, and Daniel says a fourth kingdom, a beast is coming, that is unlike those before, that will devour and break in pieces and stamp the residue, it will be merciless, authoritarian, violent. The beast will be boastful. The bible does not say that a utopian financial environment is going to happen before Jesus returns. When the antichrist whoever he is does come, the bible says that Israel would have made a covenant with death. it says that Israel makes this agreement to avoid a scourge. That doesn’t sound like financial or societal utopia. I am filing this about Apollo Fintech under my I don’t understand it file, and look forward to my Lord and Savior Jesus coming for me, because I know for sure He is my true love, God, and He keeps His word.

      About Israel making a covenant with death to avoid a scourge they are expecting, Isaiah 28:14-22

      Daniel about the fourth beast, Dan 7:7-28

      Daniel’s dream, Dan 2:33-45

      To the King of heaven and earth alone be glory

       

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    • #18414
      tenderreed
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      Governments of the world can promise anything, but you can’t hide ugly forever!

      Just like the pseudo saviour, politician, and answer man the AC starts out as.

      Then with lying and even miracles the true agenda of the AC is revealed!

      TR

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    • #18417
      tenderreed
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      The 9th of Av speaks of evils which befall directly with Israel.  Though troublesome the Rapture will adversely affect all nations.

      Just as the seven year countdown affects all of mankind!

      Symbolically the 9th of Av could be used simply as an omen which at some point speak to Jewish minds!

      TR

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      • #18421
        Geri7
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        Yes, interestingly both Jewish temples got destroy/removed on the same day … not one stone was left … how ironic if the rapture does happen on the 9th of AV and our bodies (which are the Temple of the Holy Spirit) get removed from planet earth   :whistle:    So happy to have another high watch day to look forward to … and if that day comes and goes … then at least we have FOT in Sept. unless someone brainstorms another day prior.   :popcorn

        I Corinthians 6:19-20

        What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

        For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.

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      • #18427
        regina
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        Geri, it would be quite the coincidence if not one living stone of the temple was left standing on that anniversary day when the temples were taken down. We were worth dying for to Jesus, we are valued more than gold to Him. the second temple was set on fire and the gold was removed as it melted, treasures were taken away.

        :flyup:

        Yes, interestingly both Jewish temples got destroy/removed on the same day … not one stone was left … how ironic if the rapture does happen on the 9th of AV and our bodies (which are the Temple of the Holy Spirit) get removed from planet earth

        Mark 12:10 Have you not even read this Scripture:

        ‘The stone which the builders rejected
        Has become the chief cornerstone.
        11 This was the Lord’s doing,
        And it is marvelous in our eyes’?”

        1Peter 2:5 And you are living stones that God is building into his spiritual temple. What’s more, you are his holy priests. Through the mediation of Jesus Christ, you offer spiritual sacrifices that please God.

        1Cor 3:5 After all, who is Apollos? Who is Paul? We are only God’s servants through whom you believed the Good News. Each of us did the work the Lord gave us. 6 I planted the seed in your hearts, and Apollos watered it, but it was God who made it grow. 7 It’s not important who does the planting, or who does the watering. What’s important is that God makes the seed grow. 8 The one who plants and the one who waters work together with the same purpose. And both will be rewarded for their own hard work. 9 For we are both God’s workers. And you are God’s field. You are God’s building.

        10 Because of God’s grace to me, I have laid the foundation like an expert builder. Now others are building on it. But whoever is building on this foundation must be very careful. 11 For no one can lay any foundation other than the one we already have—Jesus Christ.

        12 Anyone who builds on that foundation may use a variety of materials—gold, silver, jewels, wood, hay, or straw. 13 But on the judgment day, fire will reveal what kind of work each builder has done. The fire will show if a person’s work has any value. 14 If the work survives, that builder will receive a reward. 15 But if the work is burned up, the builder will suffer great loss. The builder will be saved, but like someone barely escaping through a wall of flames.

        16 Don’t you realize that all of you together are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God lives in you? 17 God will destroy anyone who destroys this temple. For God’s temple is holy, and you are that temple.

        Fair use for discussion purposes

        From http://www.templemount.org/TMTRS.html

        The second temple treasury did benefit from a great influx of gold and silver from all lands contributed by worshippers. Cicero wrote of great influxes of gold to Jerusalem during his lifetime. Gifts other than gold or silver coins were sold and their value given to the treasury. Another large source of revenue was profit made from the sale of the meat offerings which were prepared by the Levites and sold every day to the offerers. By far the largest sum was probably derived from the half-shekel of temple tribute which was required of every male Israelite of age, including proselytes and slaves. The total sum of gold and silver contributed annually at the time of Jesus has been estimated to have been of the order of $500,000 per year. A large fraction of this wealth no doubt accumulated year after year over the lifetime of the second temple, (515 B. C. to 70 A. D.). There were numerous temple expenses but the evidence suggests that the bulk of the income was stored up year after year.

        Thus, the Roman plunder could well have been worth tens of millions of dollars. The pillaging of the temple, its total destruction and the burning of Jerusalem with terrible suffering and loss of life occurred in 70 AD under the Roman General Titus (Josephus, Wars of the Jews). Tradition has it that the intense flames of the temple fire melted the gold and silver of the temple so that it ran between the cracks of the rocks. Roman soldiers then totally dismantled the temple stone by stone to extract the gold, (see Matthew 24:1-2). No one seems to know with certainty if any of the vessels or sacred objects from Herod’s temple were hidden in subterranean passageways during the long siege of Titus. Most everything of value was most likely carried off to Rome.

        The overall impression from all the biblical accounts and from tradition is that the various plunderings of Jerusalem’s temples were always thorough and total. While no gold or silver may be buried underneath the temple mount, objects of priceless archaeological, historical, and religious significance may lie there. Jeremiah the prophet may have suggested that the Ark, however, has been permanently lost, (Jeremiah 3:16), or at least that it will cease to be of great significance when Messiah comes.

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    • #18474
      tenderreed
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      The great loss must speak to not gaining the great rewards!

      Salvation will indeed more than enough even setting our sight low.  But God seems attimate about our storing up of Heavenly treasures!

      Mansion vs “leanto”, I guess.  But more importantly, being also able to bless Christ and others with our treasures.

      TR

       

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    • #18635
      Geri7
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      Hmmm … the 9th of AV is  Sunset, 29 July – nightfall, 30 July

      And the latest news with the Annexation is …

      Times of Israel   7/1/20

      Netanyahu ally confirms delays in West Bank annexation plan
      Ofir Akunis says Israeli officials still working out final details with their American counterparts, but he expects controversial move to take place later this month

      A confidant of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu confirmed that the premier’s plan to annex parts of the West Bank would not start on Wednesday, the original target date.

      The developments cast further uncertainty over whether Israel will ultimately follow through on the explosive annexation initiative, which has drawn fierce condemnations from some of Israel’s closest allies.

      Speaking to Army Radio, Regional Cooperation Minister Ofir Akunis confirmed that the annexation process would not begin on Wednesday, saying that officials were still working out the final details with their American counterparts. He said he expected the annexation to take place later in July.

       

      Wouldn’t it be something if it occurs on the 9th of AV – July 29th – July 30th B-)

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      • #18654
        Leaving Soon
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        Geri7, Since Pentecost came and went I’ve been telling myself I’ll give it till August 1st. at the absolute latest before I give up on this year.

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    • #18656
      tenderreed
      Participant

      Our Blessed Hope is timeless and does not follow any calendar!

      The plans of Satan and our enemies are always overshadowed by the plans of God!

      TR

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