May 11, 2020 at 9:39 pm #15245Watchman35Participant
JD touched on this topic in his latest prophecy update on Sunday. and I tend to agree with his stated perspective. As I understood his stated position, JD apparently believes that the Church will be gone before anyone is pushed into a decision about whether or not to take the vaccine.
I personally tend to agree with that assessment. IF the vaccine does in fact actually morph into the true mark of the beast, then I am confident we will be out of here before being forced to make that decision. Tribulation saints will be confronted with it, but the Bride of Christ will be harpazoed first.
However, I suppose it is possible we could arrive, while the Bride is still on earth, at needing to make a decision about the vaccine, with a buying/selling implication, without it being the true Mark of the Beast. However, if it is going to be implanted on the right hand or forehead, that would be a dead giveaway. It just seems so evil, in whatever form it may initially take, that I have a very hard time envisioning myself accepting it under any circumstances. My sense is the Lord will rescue His Bride before we are even required to make such a decision, which translates into time being extremely short until the rapture.
Would be interested to hear the thoughts of others.
May 11, 2020 at 10:14 pm #15247
May 11, 2020 at 11:42 pm #15257
A few weeks ago I was VERY concerned we “might” still be here when they rolled-out the vaccine … but as I was reading more articles and listening to more youtubes about what this vaccine REALLY is about (step 1 or a 3-step series of the mark of the beast) and words like “luciferase” associated to it … that was the clincher that convinced me … the church will be gone and not be forced to make any decision when they roll-out the vaxx. And for the planned roll-out to be 12 months or less tells me the rapture hast to occur within that window frame line.
May 16, 2020 at 12:16 am #15606
Geri7, It’s a lot closer than 12 months away now. They will probably roll it out before the election !
May 11, 2020 at 11:56 pm #15260DonnaModerator
May 12, 2020 at 12:47 am #15264reginaParticipant
Holy Spirit seals us, so a vaccine cannot unseal us. the 144,000 from the tribes of Israel are sealed at least before the trumpet judgements. I don’t know if there will be a different vaccine than the quantum dot one we’ve been reading about. Vaccines in the past were not attached to ID’ing us and purchasing, selling permission. If this ID2020, quantum dot vaccination is the roll out to get people to accept a coming mark of the beast, it would be a “conflict of interest” for a believer who is Spirit sealed to support the beast plan. anyhow, thats what i’m thinking
Ephesians 1:13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.
Ephesians 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
2Corinthians 1:21 Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, 22 set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.
May 12, 2020 at 1:11 am #15266
May 12, 2020 at 3:25 pm #15291
May 12, 2020 at 4:00 pm #15295
i agree that the whole quantum dot thing is past the line of tolerable for us…for multiple reasons and not just to not go along with something that helps them to develop the system of the mark of the beast (besides, i’m guessing we’ve been “helping” them with that for decades w/ use of barcodes & scanners, electronic banking, smart phones, etc.)
i think the quantum dot stuff is “helping them” too much…like ya’ll are talking about the seal of the Holy Spirit and that we belong to God, i don’t want to be marked along with the masses in order to be tracked or for my freedoms to be diminished…as a Christian I serve One Master, as an American I want to hold onto the rights those before me worked so hard to establish and protect- even with their lives.
from what i can tell, that thing where it glows with a mark or something like it where there is some physical something implanted is waaaay too easily used for abuse of liberty even if there were original innocent intentions (of some) to protect & prosper by having people safely go to work w/o spreading a virus, etc….
ultimately, i would probably be okay with a regular shot vaccine in the arm that is to prevent illness, but i would also be much more wary about it these days and honestly extremely reluctant of myself and loved ones receiving it…
i think i would be much more fearful of having some unknown substances inserted into me that may have, too, been rushed along in the process of determining safety than i have fear of the affects of COVID-19 (which honestly DO sound horrendous for some.)
May 15, 2020 at 7:58 pm #15595
i think i may have to retract my above statement about being ok w/ regular shot kind of vaccine that isn’t “marking” me, because even though I remember reading where Tammie was talking about DNA stuff related to vaccines, i think i thought that was only with the quantum dot technology… i don’t think i realized til researching today that probably any vaccine they come up with this quickly (saying by end of 2020 or Jan. 2021) will be that kind of vaccine- a genetic type- that hasn’t really been widespread used or tested – mRNA vaccine…i don’t have much of a grasp on it even after reading a lot, but this is really concerning to me…
i gotta say i was praising God when i heard Trump say s’thing to the effect of -some people won’t want to get one- in regard to a COVID-19 vaccine…because as Americans, I expect our President to stand up for our rights to choose what goes into our bodies….but then again, how many companies etc. will be convinced that they need to verify people’s immunity before allowing them entrance? this could soooo be a pre-cursor to restrictions on who can buy and sell what….crazy world! praying so hard for a soon Rapture! i know He has a very specific time set and is in complete control though, so i thank Him and rest in that assurance…
May 16, 2020 at 12:09 am #15605
I don’t think we will be here and forced to make that decision because we are the body of Christ and I don’t think Jesus wants that 666 vaccine in His body and defiling the temple of the Holy Ghost.
Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular. 1 Cor. 12:27
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s. 1 Cor. 6:19
May 16, 2020 at 6:10 am #15619
Wow, Leaving Soon, thank you for the latest update about the Quantam Dot Vaccine will be rolled-out BEFORE the elections … November 3rd!
The rapture window just narrowed because if you watched the “Understanding the Times” youtube by Robert Breaker … he goes into detail of this Quantam Dot Vaccine and he feels the church can not be here when this is roll-out because this is what COVID – 19 means …
”Certificate of Vaccination ID – A.I.” so they can track you.
1 – A
5 – E
6 – F
7 – G
8 – H
9 – I
and once they turn on the 5G your mind becomes
I’m hoping we are gone this month – Ascension Day or Pentecost or do we leave on FOT ?
Super moon schedule
Thursday, September 17 (Feast of Trumpets begins Sept 18-20)
Friday, October 16th (rescheduled date for pope’s Global pack signing event for new humanism was to take place on May 14 with a series of complimentary events May 10-17. It will now be held Oct. 11-18 and the Pact signed Oct. 15. The event will bring together representatives of religions, international bodies and the various humanitarian institutions, of the academic, economic, political and cultural world.)
Sunday, November 15th ?
May 16, 2020 at 1:52 pm #15640
Geri7, It gets more obvious. I don’t know if Robert Breaker pointed this out in that video but I posted this link a few days ago or so in reply to one of Todd E’s comments somewhere.
If you click on the link and scroll down just a little bit you can see how
“Implantable Quantum Dot Microneedle Vaccination Delivery System”
All adds up to 666 in English letter to number calculating.
May 17, 2020 at 4:00 pm #15711
He mentions a Patent # 060606 … and says its a digital tattoo to track, control and mark you. When they roll it out … they will force people to take it or else they can’t buy or sell. So he believes its the start of the antichrist system. Its out in the open and they are not hiding what they are planning. He said its going to be like a bandaid that they slap on your hand or forehead. It has little tiny prongs that will make tiny holes into your skin … like snake fangs. A few things will be injected into the body … ink is one of them so stores, banks, doctor/dentist, etc. can scan you and see you taken the “vaccine”. There is also going to be some junk that will change your DNA as well as some tiny metal junk which will be used for the crypto currency system. And then once they turn on the 5G towers … your body literally becomes a mini tower. Then they will be able to track your every move, read your brain waves and thoughts and will warn you if your having a heart attack and will advise you to go to the ER ASAP, etc.
So its to track, control and mark a person.
May 17, 2020 at 4:37 pm #15715
Yeah I watched the last half of Robert’s video and I thought it was interesting when he said they want everyone to be 6 ft. apart because when people are too close the 5G has a hard time tracking them.
I think it might be some kind of sonar system and that’s why birds are attacking 5G towers and even dropping dead
Which made me think of this scene in “The Dark Night”
May 16, 2020 at 8:51 am #15623
May 16, 2020 at 9:17 am #15626
May 17, 2020 at 7:26 pm #15731
The way I look at this roll out vaccine that seems to destroy and/or control the human body … the church hast to be gone and then all our loved ones, friends, co-workers, neighbors, strangers that we witnessed to and they procrastinated in making decisions will then become believers because we are gone and they will realize what we warned them about was really true. Then they will refuse this vaccination and will eventually be martyred for their faith.
I was just saying 2 days ago to 2 cyber friends … my work here is done and all I’m doing is praying for people. I haven’t been able to witness to anybody for weeks because of this social distancing. Preachers doing social media are seeing results but one on one witnessing seems to have ended. Well, today I went to the local grocery store to pick up some bargains that were on sale. I was looking at their plants outdoors since they were on sale too and this lady starts talking to me and was going on and on. It was just the 2 of us and I listened to what she had to say about gardening and she was asking questions about when to plant marigolds, etc. I was surprised she wanted to talk since I wasn’t wearing a face mask and she had one on. I knew the Lord wanted me to witness to her so I started to share my faith and as I handed her a Bible Tract she started crying. She said she has demons attacking her all the time! She’s been to so many local churches trying to get help and relief but nobody can help her. I said well, Jesus can! First you need to confess your sins to Jesus and then ask Him to be your Lord and personal Savior and then the Holy Spirit will take up resident inside of you and the demons have to flee! By this time she removed her mask and was so happy to hear this. She thanked me and said I wish I could give you a hug. I started to laugh and said that’s ok.
If you can say a prayer for her … her name is Joanne. Thanks.
May 17, 2020 at 9:13 pm #15736
May 17, 2020 at 10:57 pm #15740
May 18, 2020 at 12:12 am #15742
Thank you for your prayers GratefulforGrace and everyone else praying for this dear lady to get saved. We are in this together in reaching the lost.
I truly was very surprise to get that chance yesterday to speak to her. Lately I’ve been battling Lyme disease and taking meds but still in a lot of pain (inflammation) in my stomach and intestine region and the fact I haven’t had opportunities to witness to others for the past few weeks one on one because most people are standoffish now I truly felt my work was done ,,, other than praying for people. I even prayed that the Lord would take me home because of this pain, so I was shocked how His timing was perfect to be there for this lady. I almost was going to postpone the grocery trip to the next day … so glad I didn’t. It was an uplifting day for sure.
May 18, 2020 at 7:08 am #15747
I think we all could stand to be reminded of His comfort and provisions by His willing grace and the ability of His strength – we will have all we need to do all He still has planned for us as we “occupy” or “do business til I come” Luke 19:12-13…(and yes, I do believe prayer is a great example of His power at work in our weakness because there have been so many times when that is all I could do and it was all He wanted me to do, I believe, after seeing how He worked in my life and others through prayer)
2 Corinthians 12:9-10
“And He said to me, My grace is sufficient for you, for power is perfected in weakness”…”I am well content with weaknesses”…”for when I am weak, then I am strong”…
my husband and i have something we believe God is asking us to do that goes against our own nature/personalities but is in line with scripture…i read something else online this morning – a missionary’s blog (that i hadn’t looked at in probably years) was today a message of encouragement to step out in faith to do what God has asked you to do even though there are still doubts and fears and even some thoughts that it is useless… as Dr. Charles Stanley says based on Bible principle- obey God and leave the consequences up to Him!
I do love our Lord and the way He works in and through us when we let Him!
May 18, 2020 at 8:55 am #15749
May 19, 2020 at 8:08 am #15805
The FDA puts a halt on the Coronavirus testing kit endorsed by Bill Gates. This is the same test that showed positive readings to papaya fruit and on goats. And this is the kit Gates is endorsing for the home invasion testing … man, if he had his way EVERYONE would falsely test positive and be taken away …
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May 19, 2020 at 9:03 am #15807
May 19, 2020 at 10:18 am #15819TammieParticipant
TR – for starters – evil, second, power. Ultimate world domination is a intoxicating cup for sure! (I will lift myself above the throne of God … remember those words of Lucifer?) Soros has drunk from this cup, Obama as well! Rothchilds and so forth, a list of names and pedigree we are all familiar with. Many through time have received the lies of “your eyes will be opened to be like gods….” so very sad… and the truth is the opposite— we who have accepted the blood of Christ to forgive our sins are now the sons and daughters of the King of Kings and Lord of Lords and we will drink of His cup. May He call us home today
May 19, 2020 at 12:50 pm #15824YohananModerator
May 19, 2020 at 2:29 pm #15832
It’s all about power and control. They lust for it and refuse to submit to God’s power and control.
Plus, I’m sure Gates and people of his ilk have been promised a prime position in the satanic kingdom if they get results. They are horribly deceived, of course, as these rewards will last no more than 7 years and then they will spend an eternity in everlasting hellfire.
May they repent before it is too late. What a incredible testimony that would be. :)
May 19, 2020 at 2:58 pm #15833MyWhiteStoneModerator
Bill Gates’ and other globalists’ efforts to reduce world population would be at least more cost effective than injections if he / they would instead support thousands of effective evangelical missions. I don’t know how much of Gates’ 10-15% for world population target reduction will acually disappear in the Rapture, but every new believer would reduce the population by one. And as a bonus the reduction would be sooner than later. At warp speed!
Instead of “genocide,” with all the negative connotations of that word, he could label his initiative “Operation Genosave!” Kinda catchy, no?
May 22, 2020 at 12:03 pm #15991
Speaking about “Operation Genosave” here is an encouraging article …
The Worldwide Pandemic Is Causing People to Turn to Christ
Decision Magazine May 1, 2020
By Jerry Pierce
In the north central California town of Columbia, the father of a former drug dealer—unsettled by constant news of the coronavirus threat and convinced by a radical change in his son—was driven to desperation on a Sunday morning in March. With his son beside him, he got down on his hands and knees, asking Jesus Christ to be his Lord and Savior after watching church services online. Father and son have had a rocky relationship, but with God all things are possible, and God is working in this family, as well as throughout this former mining village, says the young man’s pastor.
A few hours away, the multisite Harvest Christian Fellowship in Southern California moved its worship services exclusively to online streaming in mid-March. Within the first two weeks of doing so, online engagement rose by 400% to more than 600,000 screen views. By Easter, more than 1 million watched online services, and some 31,000 people indicated they had prayed to receive Christ in four weeks.
“I think that this moment is an open door. … If we’re smart, we’re going to seize the moment—carpe diem. We don’t know when it will come again.”
—Pastor Greg Laurie
In Mexico City on March 18, just before that country began implementing widespread precautionary measures, a young man named Fernando heard the Gospel while serving food to a gathering of Christian pastors who had come to hear about the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association’s Christian Life and Witness training. Afterward, Fernando approached the speaker at the meeting—BGEA’s David Ruiz. “I need to know that hope,” he told Ruiz, who then helped lead Fernando to faith in Christ.
And in Punjab state in northern India, amid a national lockdown because of COVID-19, a Christian woman was so burdened for her Sikh neighbors that she shared the Gospel message with them. Moved by the Gospel, the members of the Sikh family prayed to receive Christ, and then walked a short distance to Pastor Bachitter Singh’s home.
Initially Singh was reluctant to invite them inside due to the lockdown, but he relented because of the nature of their visit, spending several hours explaining to them how Jesus Christ had transformed his own life.
Singh reported via email: “We have been locked inside our homes, but the Gospel cannot be locked.”
Greg Laurie, the senior pastor of Harvest Christian Fellowship, told Decision that his sermon on March 22—the second week of online-only church services—was about God’s answer to fear and anxiety, which seemed to resonate not only with Christians being reminded of their hope but also with unbelievers who are desperately seeking it.
“I think, especially with the spread of COVID-19, you might read of yet another person dying. That’s really scary and it’s a wake-up call for all of us,” Laurie said. “But we want to show the Good News to people—that God can give them the meaning of life on earth and the hope of life beyond the grave.”
Laurie noted that shelter-in-place orders have provided a moment in time that God might use to reap a spiritual harvest.
“In addressing the church at Philadelphia in the Book of Revelation, the Lord tells them, ‘I’m the one who opens doors,’” Laurie said. “And so, I think that this moment is an open door. … If we’re smart, we’re going to seize the moment—carpe diem. We don’t know when it will come again.”
Retired Major Gen. Douglas Carver, former U.S. Army chief of chaplains and now director of chaplaincy for the Southern Baptist North America Mission Board, served in the Iraq War and has witnessed multiple ways in which spiritual opportunities arise in crisis situations.
“Normally we don’t plan a crisis for 12 p.m. tomorrow,” Carver said. “A crisis has a way of putting a person in a helpless situation where they look for some kind of relief in their time of need. Crises have a way of taking our props, removing all of those things that we have leaned on … and forcing us to see how finite we really are, that there is an eternity we can look forward to with hope through faith in Jesus Christ.”
“We have been locked inside our homes, but the Gospel cannot be locked.”
—Pastor Bachitter Singh
Mike Redinger, pastor of Connecting Columbia Church in the north central California foothills, whom God used to reach the father of the former drug dealer, has been encouraging his flock to “be the church” in their community of 2,200 residents for months.
Redinger has been discipling Mathan, the former drug dealer. The dad’s conversion came after he invited Mathan over on a Sunday morning to “maybe have some Bible study”—a most unlikely request knowing the two men and their history, Redinger said.
The pastor fought back tears telling the story of his small town, ravaged by broken homes and broken lives.
“One of the things that I think this is telling me,” said Redinger, “is we’ve got to get our church going in that direction and ready for the harvest field that God’s preparing right now.”
From computer and TV screens in living rooms to neighbors talking to each other from a safe distance, followers of Jesus Christ have a moment—an open door—to point others to Him.
And in that moment, Laurie has a message for pastors: “Throw the net. No matter what you’re speaking on, make sure you think of nonbelievers who are watching you, who are looking for answers, and just tell them how to believe in Jesus.”
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